2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[Pyrone89]

Not to mention what happens when an actual top F1 driver goes over there and has to learn a complete new car, team, track and racing discipline (oval racing) in only a couple of track days: he immediately challenges for the win in the most prestigious race of America (Indy500) until the engine exploded

This is because standardization of IndyCar - all teams and drivers have somewhat the same technical base, and the difference is made by their driving skills and race management. In F1 you should be very lucky to take a seat in top team that has significant resources for development. In addition to this, the F1 teams have very different policies to their drivers. Look what happen to Raikonen at example. He is world champion but when he is a second driver in the team or when he moved to middle pack team like Alfa, his talent became invisible. So, you cannot claim that former F1 drivers in IndyCar are at lower level. Maybe we have never seen their true potential in F1 because they have not been driven for top teams as leading pilots.

I am basing my reaosning also on their results in feeder series in Europe, which ARE spec

[mclaren113]

kvyat is maybe solid but i am afraid he will fall in to his old habits..... wanting to prove he is upto Max and start being torpedo again.... but he will be the first option for RB


oh believe me i don't underestimate Nico, but he ain't a match for Max

Well Max wasn't a match for Ric too

Your comment can be read in two ways. I'll read it in the way you didn't ment to do it..

Guess you're right not a match. Max outperformed Ric... .

So Ric went for the second best thing to do. Monetize his career.
To be fair not the biggest pile offered by MCL, but the second biggest pile (and biggest piles of dreams) offered by Abiteboul big blue eyes.....

Ric outperformed Max..you can't deny it..stats say it all buddy

[IvailoStefanovBG]

Well Max wasn't a match for Ric too

Your comment can be read in two ways. I'll read it in the way you didn't ment to do it..

Guess you're right not a match. Max outperformed Ric... .

So Ric went for the second best thing to do. Monetize his career.
To be fair not the biggest pile offered by MCL, but the second biggest pile (and biggest piles of dreams) offered by Abiteboul big blue eyes.....

Ric outperformed Max..you can't deny it..stats say it all buddy

Outperforrming him now also is he?

[turbof1]

What has Ricciardo to do in a 2019 red bull team thread?

Let's get back on track, people.

[TNTHead]

Last year the results at the Hungaroring were a bit disappointing, with VER with a PU failure and RIC ending 4th. Let's see how this year goes. I have high hopes for even the first pole of VER!

[Datco]

So Mercs strength has been slow speed corners which I beleive is important in Hungery. Is there any evidence that RBR has closed that gap in the last few races looking at particular sections of a track.
Hairpin at Germany??, while the race was wet, RBR did not seem to be at a disadvantage in qualy at the hairpin, actually neither did Ferrari.

[diffuser]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

And based on Monaco Merc( .5 seconds in quali) has a huge lead going into Hungry.

[godlameroso]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

And based on Monaco Merc has a huge lead going into Hungry.

Monaco was a long time ago, RBR wasn't even using the current nose. The car is slightly slower in slow corners, but at mid and high speed the RB15 has the edge on the W10.

Hungary is mostly mid speed corners. Mercedes may have an edge in turn 2 and the final 2 corners, but the Red Bull should be faster or match it everywhere else.

[diffuser]

Spa?! I honestly think in perfect conditions that will be Ferrari's race to lose.

Suzuka also is a very good chance for Ferrari, as there aren't many slow corners. But by then Honda's mill will evolve to its final form.

And based on Monaco Merc has a huge lead going into Hungry.

Monaco was a long time ago, RBR wasn't even using the current nose. The car is slightly slower in slow corners, but at mid and high speed the RB15 has the edge on the W10.

Hungary is mostly mid speed corners. Mercedes may have an edge in turn 2 and the final 2 corners, but the Red Bull should be faster or match it everywhere else.

Atleast one of Mercs will be .5 of a second up the road from Verstapin min. Ham was .2 up on Ver in S3 alone in Germany and Hungry is basically 3 sectors of Germany's S3.

Turn 02 093 KM
Turn 03 108 KM
Turn 06 105 KM
Turn 12 113 KM
Turn 13 100 KM

[gandharva]

Christian agrees. As do I.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... r/4504929/

[Wouter]

Christian agrees. As do I.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... r/4504929/

What does Christian agrees? That Mercedes is 0.2/0.5 sec faster in the slow corners?
That is not what he is talking about.

Asked by Motorsport.com if he believed Red Bull was favourites for this weekend, Horner said: "Hungary is a track we enjoy going to. But Mercedes's slow corner performance is pretty mighty, and I think they're going to be tough opponents."

[gandharva]

I don't believe his 0.5 sec prediction, but I also don't care about your attempt on splitting hair.

[Wouter]

I don't believe his 0.5 sec prediction, but I also don't care about your attempt on splitting hair.

Sorry, I don't understand this English sentence. Could you please write it in German,
because I see you are from München and I speak German myself.

[Maplesoup]

I don't believe his 0.5 sec prediction, but I also don't care about your attempt on splitting hair.

Sorry, I don't understand this English sentence. Could you please write it in German,
because I see you are from München and I speak German myself.

Splitting hairs means to argue over small details. For instance whether Merc are 0.2 or 0.5 ahead in slow corners. It probably won't matter too much in the bigger picture of things.

[MtthsMlw]

You could translate that literally and it does mean the same