2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[Pyrone89]

Which is sad since you can be sure those same locals not having the means to attend sure as hell paid for the circuit through direct and indirect taxes.

[donskar]

Distracted with US Presidential Primary debates, completely forgot there was a race this weekend. Have to focus on the more important things in life, like F1.

refreshing to see another fellow member from stateside, Hello from illinois mate!

And count me in from the Great (?) State of Texas.

[TAG]

Which is sad since you can be sure those same locals not having the means to attend sure as hell paid for the circuit through direct and indirect taxes.

Socialize losses, privatize profits. It's the ecosystem between the rich and those in power. Bernie became quite the wealthy fella when he was driving the sport.

[dans79]

Yep, I'm from IL myself.

Which brings up the question of how long is long enough to answer the question "where you're from"!

I feel as if I lived in the EU I'd go see at least three GPs a year. Not the most convenient or financially feasible thing for us Americans to do.

You'd still be spending several thousand dollars to do that. Prices go up for event weekends so hotels etc get expensive. Even camping can be expensive.

F1 isn't cheap. You need to be committed to the cause to go to several races.

For big events you've got to avoid the Hotels like the plague. Airbnb, Vrbo, and the like are where you get good deals. For Austin this year, 2 buddies and I rented a small 3 bedroom house for 4 nights, the total was ~$850 USD.

For whoever was asking about race pricing, I paid $175 USD for a 3 day general admission pass for Austin.

[Restomaniac]

BREAKING NEWS, BREAKTHROUGH IN F1's PENALTY SYSTEM. https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/23913 "Stewards to impose time penalties for unsafe releases"

Well no s..., water is wet as well. They're pretending as if was some uncertain area that needed their damn reconsideration. Shameless favouritism is swept under the carpet as clarification. Team fine or time penalty, decisions, decisions. Who would have thought it was a time penalty to begin with.

Let's call a spade spade. This is basically open admission to cheating: yes we did it but only once. Only in F1 bizarro world. You want Ferrari to win one race, make 15 s pitstop by "mistake" when they're second, like RB's open gift in Barcelona 201x .

It was a disgrace, only without consequences because LEC did not finish anyway. Imagine if he had won and this would have been the deciding factor.

The FIA should go further and permanetly remove the Stewards who made that shocking decision. It was clearly biased and has no place in professional sport. We aren’t talking about a grey area here and it was clear cheating (by the Stewards) who just ignored the standard penalty and made 1 up on the spot IMHO.

It was laughable. As a sanction it was like a football referee seeing a clear penalty in the box and then making the manager have to buy him a chocolate bar from the vending machine at full time as the outcome!

Remember they had a situation where they had a car that if the driver had followed the rules would have driven the full length of the track dropping CarbonFibre everywhere and they still saw fit to be sticklers and impose the rules with a penalty then.

[NathanOlder]

LewisHamiltonBurg!

If Hamilton is not well again it would be better if they informed about it before the race . If they do it afterwards it may be considered an excuse.

Can't wait for another team fine for unsafe release. That's F1 for you, you can buy yourself unsafe behaviour as long as you're Ferrari.

They informed us before the race in Germany. So they would probably do the same this weekend. No excuse --- last weekend I'm afraid buddy.

[kalinka]

Silverstone general admission this year was about £180, going up to nearly £500 for the best grandstand...

Which is why GPs like Turke & India when it was on the calendar and current Middle East venues like Bahrain when half the seats are empty are always difficult to process. Whether lack of money from local fans to attend or lack of interest yet there's still a GP there because of the oil money. I mean the only reason I can think as to why there's a Bahrain GP is due to the McLaren ownership.

Anyway back to Hungary... anyone with some nice anecdotal stories of rampant prostitution around this circuit? I've heard stuff but never actually had anyone confirm first hand. I mean just out of curiosity of course.

Yeah, I was attending races in '91 and '94 and those were the worst times. They were doing "business" in containers and mobile homes around the track..hunting for Germans mostly, who came for Schumacher. Later it had declined because of increasing police presence, and now I think it's almost completely eliminted around the circuit because it's too risky for them. But still sometimes you hear some stroies from the city about police arrested prostitutes and "tourists" around the time of the GP. It's less dangereous for both parties to hide in dense populated places in apartments.

[Espresso]

BREAKING NEWS, BREAKTHROUGH IN F1's PENALTY SYSTEM. https://www.motorsportweek.com/news/id/23913 "Stewards to impose time penalties for unsafe releases"

Well no s..., water is wet as well. They're pretending as if was some uncertain area that needed their damn reconsideration. Shameless favouritism is swept under the carpet as clarification. Team fine or time penalty, decisions, decisions. Who would have thought it was a time penalty to begin with.

Let's call a spade spade. This is basically open admission to cheating: yes we did it but only once. Only in F1 bizarro world. You want Ferrari to win one race, make 15 s pitstop by "mistake" when they're second, like RB's open gift in Barcelona 201x .

It was a disgrace, only without consequences because LEC did not finish anyway. Imagine if he had won and this would have been the deciding factor.

This... and furthermore, not to mention he fakktup Grosjean's pit stop as well.

Well check the nr. 9 - from 29 seconds onwards.
First onboard LeClerc, then onboard Grosjean.

If Grosjean didn't pull an emergency break in the fast lane. Grosjean would have sidewalled LeClerc and scooped up a whole Red Bull crew in the process

And they were lucky there was nobody behind Grosjean at that moment. That would have become another pile up.

IMHO is just shows the influence of Nicolas Todt, Son of FIA president Jean Todt.
LeClerc shoved into Ferrari where they start to build the team around him.
Stewards starting to make decision pro-LeClerc.

Because of some nice excuses from the FIA...(Stewards should have seen Grosjean's onboard..) they went ahead with this obvious biased pitstop decision failure. No other words then...to obvious for the world to see that decision was sooo wrong...

And when Max protested (as only driver) FIA ridiculed him,
Max hit Bottas...na na na....LeClerc hit none...yeah yeah yeah....

... that went fine for a short moment until the world fell upon the FIA as Max's wording opened up hell gate to pit stops....
Finally FIA (were forced and) turned it around in an odd way and will start to penalize it...without giving in and/or admitting there mistake (or deliberate decision)? Major flaw. I'm missing Charlie majorly........

How much more of a soap serie can we expect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg-CLxE2-PQ

[Restomaniac]

LewisHamiltonBurg!

If Hamilton is not well again it would be better if they informed about it before the race . If they do it afterwards it may be considered an excuse.

Can't wait for another team fine for unsafe release. That's F1 for you, you can buy yourself unsafe behaviour as long as you're Ferrari.

They informed us before the race in Germany. So they would probably do the same this weekend. No excuse --- last weekend I'm afraid buddy.

Indeed. Hamilton himself mentioned it in the interviews after Qualy for a start.

[waynes]

I've heard stuff but never actually had anyone confirm first hand

unintended double entendre?

[Zarathustra]

If Hamilton is not well again it would be better if they informed about it before the race . If they do it afterwards it may be considered an excuse.

Can't wait for another team fine for unsafe release. That's F1 for you, you can buy yourself unsafe behaviour as long as you're Ferrari.

They informed us before the race in Germany. So they would probably do the same this weekend. No excuse --- last weekend I'm afraid buddy.

Indeed. Hamilton himself mentioned it in the interviews after Qualy for a start.

Yeah- he had a bit of a sore throat, well ‘boohoo’..

To be honest- I have the feeling that he just didn’t want to take part in the whole Netflix thing, last weekend.

We’ll see in January?

[Pyrone89]

It was a disgrace, only without consequences because LEC did not finish anyway. Imagine if he had won and this would have been the deciding factor.

This... and furthermore, not to mention he fakktup Grosjean's pit stop as well.

Well check the nr. 9 - from 29 seconds onwards.
First onboard LeClerc, then onboard Grosjean.

If Grosjean didn't pull an emergency break in the fast lane. Grosjean would have sidewalled LeClerc and scooped up a whole Red Bull crew in the process

And they were lucky there was nobody behind Grosjean at that moment. That would have become another pile up.

IMHO is just shows the influence of Nicolas Todt, Son of FIA president Jean Todt.
LeClerc shoved into Ferrari where they start to build the team around him.
Stewards starting to make decision pro-LeClerc.

Because of some nice excuses from the FIA...(Stewards should have seen Grosjean's onboard..) they went ahead with this obvious biased pitstop decision failure. No other words then...to obvious for the world to see that decision was sooo wrong...

And when Max protested (as only driver) FIA ridiculed him,
Max hit Bottas...na na na....LeClerc hit none...yeah yeah yeah....

... that went fine for a short moment until the world fell upon the FIA as Max's wording opened up hell gate to pit stops....
Finally FIA (were forced and) turned it around in an odd way and will start to penalize it...without giving in and/or admitting there mistake (or deliberate decision)? Major flaw. I'm missing Charlie majorly........

How much more of a soap serie can we expect?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg-CLxE2-PQ

Not saying it is true, but the son of the FIA president being the manager of one the top drivers does indeed feel uneasy. Are we going to get new Balestre situations in the future with Max being in the Senna role (constantly screwed politically, perhaps by introducing rules favoruble to Ferrari and disadvantage for RB) and Leclerc being in the Prost role (getting constant favors) when these two really start battling it out for the championships?

[izzy]

So it's the Lewis n Max show this weekend, by the look of it. Great!! Lewis looking good on the softs so far as well

[MtthsMlw]

Already just over a second off the track record. Cars are fast confirmed.

[Pyrone89]

So it's the Lewis n Max show this weekend, by the look of it. Great!! Lewis looking good on the softs so far as well

Bottas hadnt had any running. The W10 seems to be well clear to be honest