2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[Morteza]

[dans79]

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That bodes really well for Mercedes!

[Pyrone89]

Mercedes has at least half a second advantage or more based on FP’s and tyre offset. Return to your normally schedueled program it is.

[godlameroso]

We can't tell anything from either FP session. We don't know fuel loads, engine settings, we know that it's close between the top 3.

Gasly's long runs in FP1 were about 1 second off the pace of Hamilton's long runs in FP1.

We don't know how the tires will hold up during the race, if they'll succumb to graining. Temperatures will be mild for this time of year in Hungary for the rest of the weekend. And the rain will continue until the morning so we will have a very green track tomorrow. There doesn't seem to be any more rain forcast for the weekend, but perhaps today's chaos stopped anyone from getting a meaningful gauge of where they stand. It certainly made finding the right setup more challenging, and teams will be chasing the circuit as conditions will be changing drastically from Saturday morning until the race. The track will be rubbering in, track temps will be changing, the wind will also be very different from very gusty on Saturday to more mild on Sunday.

[turbof1]

Ok guys, please all take a chill pill

Better yet, some might have to take the whole bottle



So we have a discussion about Hamilton being or not being too ill about a sore throat. First of all, that doesn't belong here. It belongs in the previous race thread. Second, you can have differing opinions about this, but you need to stay respectful. Staying respectful has nothing to do with fragile or weak people, and has everything to do with others wanting to discuss, just some crazy though don't mind me, the events of the currents race weekend in a none-hostile setting!

I'll end that discussion right here. Discussion was off topic in the first place, so all involved posts will be removed. Next time it's warnings, bans, your dog shot dead (no, I'm not f*cking serious. About that last part. The other parts will happen).

#GunterSteinerModeDisengaged

[maxxer]

I guess something got wild here

[Sieper]

My dog is now whimpering behind the couch and he won’t come out. What can I do?

Maxiieeee, maxieeee.

No.

[zibby43]

We can't tell anything from either FP session. We don't know fuel loads, engine settings, we know that it's close between the top 3.

That’s literally the case every race weekend.

However, outlets such as AMuS talk to the teams’ engineers, and they have GPS data and other tools that take into account competitors’ engine modes and fuel loads.

Long-run pace almost always ends up being a strong predictor of weekend form. The lack of representative running in FP2 makes assessing form more difficult, for sure.

In the meantime, judging by Hamilton’s pace on a harder compound in FP2 and his pace on old softs in the AM, and knowing Merc’s history of running heavy fuel with lower engine modes, I think it’s safe to expect more from them.

[turbof1]

My dog is now whimpering behind the couch and he won’t come out. What can I do?

Maxiieeee, maxieeee.

No.

Ok, I see how I caused this issue. Let me solve this by bringing in an independent person; she is extra good with dogs!

[Capharol]

[Pyrone89]

We can't tell anything from either FP session. We don't know fuel loads, engine settings, we know that it's close between the top 3.

That’s literally the case every race weekend.

However, outlets such as AMuS talk to the teams’ engineers, and they have GPS data and other tools that take into account competitors’ engine modes and fuel loads.

Long-run pace almost always ends up being a strong predictor of weekend form. The lack of representative running in FP2 makes assessing form more difficult, for sure.

In the meantime, judging by Hamilton’s pace on a harder compound in FP2 and his pace on old softs in the AM, and knowing Merc’s history of running heavy fuel with lower engine modes, I think it’s safe to expect more from them.

Indeed, and in this case you dont need an engineering degree to see the W10 is simply faster

[Sevach]

Mercedes has good/great pace on hards which to me means that medium/hard is pretty much on for them.
Ferrari seemed to struggle on hards and be good on softs which makes things a little difficult on their end.
Hard to gage Red Bull, Verstappen is good on mediums.

[rogazilla]

We can't tell anything from either FP session. We don't know fuel loads, engine settings, we know that it's close between the top 3.

That’s literally the case every race weekend.

However, outlets such as AMuS talk to the teams’ engineers, and they have GPS data and other tools that take into account competitors’ engine modes and fuel loads.

Long-run pace almost always ends up being a strong predictor of weekend form. The lack of representative running in FP2 makes assessing form more difficult, for sure.

In the meantime, judging by Hamilton’s pace on a harder compound in FP2 and his pace on old softs in the AM, and knowing Merc’s history of running heavy fuel with lower engine modes, I think it’s safe to expect more from them.

So if Spec 1 Honda is 1 second behind spec 1 Merc and Spec 3 honda is .5 behind spec 2 Merc. That means the gap between Gasly's long run could be a little closer no? Obviously it is not apple to apple as car has improved over the season and condition continue to change but I do think based on what we saw last 3 races, Lewis gets pole and walk away but second Merc can be challenged by Lec and Max, maybe even Vet.

[erudite450]

We can't tell anything from either FP session. We don't know fuel loads, engine settings, we know that it's close between the top 3.

That’s literally the case every race weekend.

However, outlets such as AMuS talk to the teams’ engineers, and they have GPS data and other tools that take into account competitors’ engine modes and fuel loads.

Long-run pace almost always ends up being a strong predictor of weekend form. The lack of representative running in FP2 makes assessing form more difficult, for sure.

In the meantime, judging by Hamilton’s pace on a harder compound in FP2 and his pace on old softs in the AM, and knowing Merc’s history of running heavy fuel with lower engine modes, I think it’s safe to expect more from them.

So if Spec 1 Honda is 1 second behind spec 1 Merc and Spec 3 honda is .5 behind spec 2 Merc. That means the gap between Gasly's long run could be a little closer no? Obviously it is not apple to apple as car has improved over the season and condition continue to change but I do think based on what we saw last 3 races, Lewis gets pole and walk away but second Merc can be challenged by Lec and Max, maybe even Vet.

I think you are doing Seb a disservice. He seems to be the more comfortable Ferrari so far this weekend.
Anyway, I would be shocked if a Ferrari beats a Mercedes in qualy. Frankly, Max should be disappointed if he's beaten by a Ferrari without any mitigating circumstance.

[Juzh]

laps from fp1. vettel is using a race map with K1 button pressed (overtake mode) on the main straight, seen from the flashing green light. Verstappen seems to also be using something similar, seen from the red lights on the steering wheel.

https://streamable.com/z79t5