2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

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The Red Bull and Mercedes are pretty similar on tyre use aren't they, so as long as Honda have fixed their starts I don't see the race at the front being too exciting

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izzy wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 23:18
The Red Bull and Mercedes are pretty similar on tyre use aren't they, so as long as Honda have fixed their starts I don't see the race at the front being too exciting
There a number of things apart from the start (which have been horrible so far this year) that RB/Honda have to worry about.

-a divebomb into turn 1 or 2
-even if they manage to keep P1 they have to break the DRS within 2 laps because of the abilities of the other teams on the straight
-build a sufficient gap against undercuts and overcuts. Basically the Merc drivers have already announced they are going to double team the one RB because Gasly was and is useless as always making it 2 vs 1. So they need a sizeable gap to protect against that as they dont have a second driver making the Mercs watch their own back (so full attack mode in strategy sense).
-reliability. For example the PU has done 6 races including one with high engine modes in the heat.
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Pyrone89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 00:05
izzy wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 23:18
The Red Bull and Mercedes are pretty similar on tyre use aren't they, so as long as Honda have fixed their starts I don't see the race at the front being too exciting
There a number of things apart from the start (which have been horrible so far this year) that RB/Honda have to worry about.

-a divebomb into turn 1 or 2
-even if they manage to keep P1 they have to break the DRS within 2 laps because of the abilities of the other teams on the straight
-build a sufficient gap against undercuts and overcuts. Basically the Merc drivers have already announced they are going to double team the one RB because Gasly was and is useless as always making it 2 vs 1. So they need a sizeable gap to protect against that as they dont have a second driver making the Mercs watch their own back (so full attack mode in strategy sense).
-reliability. For example the PU has done 6 races including one with high engine modes in the heat.
-unlucky sc and vsc
Sums up the situation very nicely.

Merc's biggest opportunity will come at the start (for all the reasons you listed). The nightmare situation for Merc is that Bottas' race pace isn't up to par.

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izzy wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 23:18
The Red Bull and Mercedes are pretty similar on tyre use aren't they, so as long as Honda have fixed their starts I don't see the race at the front being too exciting
What worries me for Verstappen is exactly how bad his starts have been, hopefully they addressed it.
Mercedes problems are, i think they'll need to make a call on Bottas>Hamilton or be vulnerable to the Ferraris trying some creative tactics.

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Pyrone89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 00:05
izzy wrote:
03 Aug 2019, 23:18
The Red Bull and Mercedes are pretty similar on tyre use aren't they, so as long as Honda have fixed their starts I don't see the race at the front being too exciting
There a number of things apart from the start (which have been horrible so far this year) that RB/Honda have to worry about.

-a divebomb into turn 1 or 2
-even if they manage to keep P1 they have to break the DRS within 2 laps because of the abilities of the other teams on the straight
Ferrari may have still an advantage, but in the race they can't use as much power as in Qualifying, so it shouldn't be quite as significant - and Mercedes and Red Bull were fairly equal today, weren't they?!

And even with DRS, last year the delta to be able to overtake a car ahead was 1.5s. I guess it'll be more or less similar this time

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Anyone has an overview of who has which tyres left?
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As always, Ferrari is mighty through high speed corners. T4 Lec over 250km/h :shock:

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Honda have obviously taken major steps. Haven’t they had some help from Mercedes previously when they couldn’t get their heads around the new PU format?

Just to clarify Honda deserve all the credit for the obvious steps forward.

I assume all engine manufactures have now gone down the Mercedes route of splitting the turbine from the compressor?

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Restomaniac wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 02:10
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I assume all engine manufactures have now gone down the Mercedes route of splitting the turbine from the compressor?
I'm pretty sure Renault and Ferrari still have the turbine and compressor together?

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Awesome qualifying effort by Max, he's really moved from Mad Max, to Mighty Max this year!
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What are the respective remaining tyre allocations?

Can’t find anything from Pirelli!

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I love how morons like Nico Rosberg are making all these outlandish claims about Max being better than Lewis on the basis of one qualifying and one bad race that Lewis had.. I mean, FFS, Lewis has almost a hundred poles!!!

Just for the record, I'm a Verstappen fan and have zero inclination towards Hamilton, just respect. I guess that's life. Some people (Rosberg) luck into something (his WDC) and then feel inclined to judge and sway common perception on the basis of that power of achievement. For me, people like him and even worse, that moron called Jolyon Palmer are trolls and should be kept far away from broadcasting.
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Mansell89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 07:23
What are the respective remaining tyre allocations?

Can’t find anything from Pirelli!
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djos wrote:Awesome qualifying effort by Max, he's really moved from Mad Max, to Mighty Max this year!
Agreed. I do hope you're right about Mad Max having grown up. If he drives a clean race today and wins I'll be impressed. Fingers crossed.

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