2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

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Ferrari is over one minute behind the winner in Hungary. We could see this again in Singapore this year.

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ringo wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 16:56
V12-POWER wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 16:29
ringo wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 15:48
Verstappen cannot manage the Hamilton pressure cooker. He isn't ready. mental breakdown inching in. I expect a lock up or slide soon.
These kind of comments are delusional
Is it really? didn't you see the race unfolding?
Hamilton had max's ticket, and this allowed mercedes to pull off that pitstop. Their concern was reliability concerning their brake wear and temps and this is mostly why Lewis was pitted. Max would have lost either way as Lewis tyres were 6 laps younger.
Hamilton has a way of chasing down drivers when he is behind. We usually get cruises to the end with other drivers following leaders. I was hoping Max could have held on as he drove very well but it wasn't enough; even with the fastest car this weekend.
The Merc was obviously faster today. He could stay in the dirty air with ease
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ringo wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:11
:P
I guess i am a troll for observing what's happening on track and posting data rather than emotions.

Tell me where mercedes was dominant. Look on Bottas. And don't say Bottas is crap as that's not proper support for that point.
Hungary is historically a strong track for Redbull cars. Today the cars were equal and Hamilton decisively used is opening laps on the hard tyres to close down the gap and start the pressure cooker. Let's not assume these drivers are equal in terms of experience and ability. Based on Max's radio he was seeking answers from his pitwall, while Lewis was dictating how to pace the car.
I agree. Very very few could have done what Ham did today. It was sublime race by the driver/team. Just wow.

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Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:24
Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..


... between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.
Nobody out drives a car, other than Maldonado. No one on the planet can do more than what the car can do. Basic science.

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As we seem to be getting nationalistic here. Well done Max, we Brits love you. But we reserve the option of supporting Hamilton, Vittel, Leclerc, whoever. We love racers
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Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:24
GPR -A wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:12
Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:09

:shock: :roll:

I guess you ‘Hamboys’ are just the best, so comical..
=D>
You need to save your energy, need it for the rest of the season to eat humble pie.

As always, Red Bull optimizes their car for the fastest tyres to suit qualifying and Mercedes focuses completely on the mid-range to hardest and focuses on race.
Lol whut?!! :|

Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..

Why do you think ‘the whole world’ went over the moon by it?!

I don’t know how about you- but I am enjoying these battles between Hamilton and Verstappen.

It’s good for the sport;
but let’s not call each other ‘fags’.. between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.
This after calling a group of fans of another driver comical :shock: :shock: :shock:

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GPR -A wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:27
Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:24
Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..


... between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.
Nobody out drives a car, other than Maldonado. No one on the planet can do more than what the car can do. Basic science.
Indeed. It’s like those people who say ‘110%’ :wtf:

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GPR -A wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:27
Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:24
Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..


... between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.
Nobody out drives a car, other than Maldonado. No one on the planet can do more than what the car can do. Basic science.
Sure- that’s why some drivers can still be quick with a damaged car and others can’t.

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Phil wrote:Personally, I don't know what RedBull would/should have done. If they had pitted, Mercedes would have stayed out. I'm not sure they could have prevented this, unless the tires would have lasted longer.
TBH Mercedes were only able to pit Lewis again because Leclerc was so far behind. Had the Ferrari had the same pace Lewis and Max would had to keep fighting it out.

Outstanding drive from both Lewis and Max. Happy to see no sign of red mist in Max as Lewis passed him. He's maturing nicely.

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Restomaniac wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:02
mclaren113 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 16:59
Gasly in the Red Bull is a crime
That becomes more apparent with every race but RedBull seem unwilling to anything about it. It’s probably going to cost them 2nd in the WCC which makes it even more confusing.
Red Bull without Max nowhere they could've won 2 races and being on the podium..

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Looks like Mercedes is still fast and pretty good on the tires in the hands of Lewis.

The reports of Merc’s pace death were greatly exaggerated. Seems like when they get limited running in FP, they always err on race pace and tire wear, even if it slightly compromises quali pace.

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Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:30
GPR -A wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:27
Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:24
Verstappen outperformed that Red Bull so hard yesterday during qualify..


... between Verstappen and Hamilton, it is Verstappen who is outperforming the car.
Nobody out drives a car, other than Maldonado. No one on the planet can do more than what the car can do. Basic science.
Sure- that’s why some drivers can still be quick with a damaged car and others can’t.
Maybe because they are better drivers?

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ubuysa wrote:
Phil wrote:Personally, I don't know what RedBull would/should have done. If they had pitted, Mercedes would have stayed out. I'm not sure they could have prevented this, unless the tires would have lasted longer.
TBH Mercedes were only able to pit Lewis again because Leclerc was so far behind. Had the Ferrari had the same pace Lewis and Max would had to keep fighting it out.

Outstanding drive from both Lewis and Max. Happy to see no sign of red mist in Max as Lewis passed him. He's maturing nicely.

More please!

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Sounds like Verstappen needs a better teammate.
Always find the gap then use it.

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El Scorchio wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 17:11
Today, Hamilton made the difference. Stayed with Verstappen throughout to force the strategy call., the two key moments were the superb laps after the first stop, where on any other track he'd probably have got past there and then, and the run to the end from the second stop.

Both drivers outperformed their cars and team mates today, and frankly the cars were pretty evenly matched on this circuit. Today Hamilton's racecraft and a clever call from the team made the difference.
Euhm no, his racecraft failed to get him past Max again as he admitted on the radio (what else can we do) in a car that is clearly still the best of the field. He needed a superb strategy call from the team and then admittedly very good racepace fully unlocking the W10, to finally pass him with DRS on far better tyres.
True GOATs don’t need the help of superior material to win.

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Leclerc continues his silly racing streak. The way he destroyed Valtteri's race and got away with it is simply unacceptable.
I think FIA should do something with that kind of things.