2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

[Pyrone89]

Also nice to see Max and Lewis enjoyed the race. Look at the post-race interview by DiResta when he was interviewimg Vettel. You could see Max and Lewis giving a big bro hug to each other

What I would give for some people on this forums to do just the same. It'd be paradise in hell.

Bro-hug, people.

Think I skip the hugging part , but I agree, with racing like this who even cares who won.

Perhaps in 20 years you will see these races back in some documentary, and you will be bragging to some youngsters that you have seen it live.

Time traveler: you mean when 10-time WDC Verstappen battled with 10-time WDC Hamilton in Hungary?

[izzy]

Several users here (including me who criticised them very often in the last years) have given kudos to Pirelli after Silverstone and even before that.

Yes the tyres were perfect today weren't they, durable enough for racing but different enough with the grades and not so durable that strategy and the driving couldn't make the difference.

On another note I know Charles is pretty but it was ridiculous how that move on Valtteri wasn't even investigated

You would almost think that he has some connections with the FIA getting away with everything, like the Presidents son as a manager

For those that are worried I am not saying this with a big wink, I have added a smiley.

lol

[TAG]

Wow, just realized, four races in September... this could all be clinched by Japan.

[TwanV]

Edge of the seat race yet again! Respect for Hamilton, Verstappen couldn't shake him moreover what pace when he went out on the hard tires after the first stop. A well deserved win.

[wesley123]

I wonder if Hamilton could have made it on his set of hards which he put on 6 laps later than Max, who pitted with 6 laps to go - Merc claimed that the only way of winning the race was doing the additional stop

Lewis put a lot of strain into the tires when going for the overtake on Max. He was two seconds per lap faster when he pit to the hards, suggesting Max was driving a pace that would make it to the end. I don't think either would have made it on the set of tires.

[LM10]

I couldn’t watch the race. The unbeatable combination (Hamilton + W10 + Mercedes team) won again and by the looks of it (live ticker and reactions) in a highly dominant way.

Sad for me and others who are fans of other teams, but you simply gotta respect what’s happening. It’s history being written and we’re witnessing it.

[Pyrone89]

I couldn’t watch the race. The unbeatable combination (Hamilton + W10 + Mercedes team) won again and by the looks of it (live ticker and reactions) in a highly dominant way.

Sad for me and others who are fans of other teams, but you simply gotta respect what’s happening. It’s history being written and we’re witnessing it.

Perhaps you should watch the race. It is a lot more nuanced and exiting then the live ticker suggests.

[TAG]

I couldn’t watch the race. The unbeatable combination (Hamilton + W10 + Mercedes team) won again and by the looks of it (live ticker and reactions) in a highly dominant way.

Watch it then come back and edit your comment.

[LM10]

I couldn’t watch the race. The unbeatable combination (Hamilton + W10 + Mercedes team) won again and by the looks of it (live ticker and reactions) in a highly dominant way.

Watch it then come back and edit your comment.

I know that it was a battle between Hamilton and Verstappen and that it was Lewis pressurizing and eventually overtaking Verstappen, but this doesn’t change that it was dominant at the end, does it?
Hamilton did a perfect job, his team did a very good strategic decision and the car was not so slow as well, I would say. So it was an unbeatable combination, with Hamilton being the biggest factor today.

[zibby43]

Right.

Hamilton brilliant with a brilliant team call with them being second and in a position to do so.
Verstappen brilliant but being in first they couldn’t roll the dice like Mercedes could also a more grown up drive from Verstappen including taking all the points available by not fighting an unwinbale fight late on.
Ferrari nowhere and shockingly bad. As where the other Mercedes and RedBull drivers.

There we go. Pretty accurate summarisation I'd say. Mercedes did make a good call, but frankly it was also a call they would not loose out with anyhow and was kinda logic. Verstappen on the other hand was not in the position to do so.

I think both Hamilton and Verstappen in their respective cars had quite similar pace. I don't think it is fair to call one better over the other in this particular instance (and honestly, Rosberg should have kept his mouth shut over it). That does shame to both really. Both drove well; Hamilton and Mercedes just were better positioned. That's what made the difference.

Yep! I agree with the vast majority of that.

However, the one critical advantage that Max had, which makes Hamilton's drive (and Merc's pace) even more impressive to me, is that Max had clean air to work with (easier on the tires, the car's hardware, etc.). Surprised that hadn't been discussed more in the context of the pace comparison as it's pretty critical.

[Zarathustra]

Lewis might think he's very funny in PC but he's a proper d!ck sometimes if you ask me. I don't remember where exactly, but he had a nice old jibe at Honda once and what he said about Pierre today was extremely disrespectful and left a filthy taste in the mouth! No one stays on top forever and there will come a day where he will be under the hammer and I know exactly how he will react if someone says something like that about him! Wonder how he would have felt if someone had called him crap in 2011?

I don’t know what has been said about Pierre, but one thing is certain-

Hamilton’s legacy has already been casted in gold.

Deep down Hamilton will like this ‘little rivalry’ between him and Verstappen.. it also brings out the best in Hamilton.

Because let’s be honest- if Verstappen wasn’t there today, this would have been an easy victory for Hamilton, without breaking a sweat.

Today Hamilton needed to ‘digg deep’ in order to secure this win- he likes that.

[Jolle]

Lewis might think he's very funny in PC but he's a proper d!ck sometimes if you ask me. I don't remember where exactly, but he had a nice old jibe at Honda once and what he said about Pierre today was extremely disrespectful and left a filthy taste in the mouth! No one stays on top forever and there will come a day where he will be under the hammer and I know exactly how he will react if someone says something like that about him! Wonder how he would have felt if someone had called him crap in 2011?

You mean when Alonso joked that he wanted equal engines and Hamilton said "but not Honda"? that is a bit far fetched to be a real jab? and what did he say about Gasly?

[Shrieker]

Merc. and Hamilton won this in the first stint, when they extended and put Red Bull & Max in a position where they had to push on new hards for a good 3-4 laps to retain the lead. Those 3-4 laps came back to bite them in the a$$ in the end.

Yes, agreed. They played it very well and I am sure this scenario was one of the ones talked through. It was perhaps Max his loss when Bottas got taken by Hamilton after the start. Of course Lewis executed to perfection.

Maybe RBR should have tried to up the pace in the second stint even more (If that was possible at all?) and then preempt an undercut. Horner when asked so by chandhok was not willing to entertain that option post race.

Likely Lewis and his merc were just to quick. Great race, very tense and Hungary almost never is.

True. I think Horner was right, since Hamilton's tires were a good 4-5 laps newer in the 2nd stint. A pre-emptive pit stop for Max could've meant Hamilton would've gone to the end without stopping, and made it.

[drunkf1fan]

Almost all the drivers take the mick out of other drivers, and teams, and engines, depending on the situation. Usually it's only a problem when someone hates a particular driver and then gets tunnel vision and forgets all the other comments everyone else makes.

[Pyrone89]

Right.

Hamilton brilliant with a brilliant team call with them being second and in a position to do so.
Verstappen brilliant but being in first they couldn’t roll the dice like Mercedes could also a more grown up drive from Verstappen including taking all the points available by not fighting an unwinbale fight late on.
Ferrari nowhere and shockingly bad. As where the other Mercedes and RedBull drivers.

There we go. Pretty accurate summarisation I'd say. Mercedes did make a good call, but frankly it was also a call they would not loose out with anyhow and was kinda logic. Verstappen on the other hand was not in the position to do so.

I think both Hamilton and Verstappen in their respective cars had quite similar pace. I don't think it is fair to call one better over the other in this particular instance (and honestly, Rosberg should have kept his mouth shut over it). That does shame to both really. Both drove well; Hamilton and Mercedes just were better positioned. That's what made the difference.

Yep! I agree with the vast majority of that.

However, the one critical advantage that Max had, which makes Hamilton's drive (and Merc's pace) even more impressive to me, is that Max had clean air to work with (easier on the tires, the car's hardware, etc.). Surprised that hadn't been discussed more in the context of the pace comparison as it's pretty critical.

A car able to follow closely in dirty air signals a significant downforce advantage, not some driver skill difference. It is physics, not something a driver can control no matter how skilled they are. That is why it is so important that they have different aero rules in 2021.