2019 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, August 2-4

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Jolle wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:50
Hamilton is having one of this most dominating seasons. Eight wins out of twelve races
Yeah, he's going for the record 13 W's in a season. 5 more W's needed for it. Once he wins the championship in say Mex, he may ease off a bit.
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04 Aug 2019, 21:07
Lewis might think he's very funny in PC but he's a proper d!ck sometimes if you ask me.
That's what you get with any top caliber driver. Aggression in the car comes from aggression in the head, it's the same attitude. Alonso was a D at McL, both 1st & 2nd stints. Seb was a D during the Multi21 race, deliberately banging wheels with LH in Baku '17. MSc was a D several times. Maybe Kimi the only top caliber driver who's more funny than a D - saying Paul diresta should get back to the commentary, Abu dhabi team radio - kinda still D, but more funny than D.
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Jolle wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:02
RZS10 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:55
Pyrone89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:43
This is the second time the FIA is extremely kind to LEC and I feel the ‘nice well mannered boy next door’ facade is fading and we are seeing the true LEC who himself screams over the radio when someone races HIM hard for a change.
It's might also be a consequence of the leniency in Austria and Silverstone after Ferrari and a lot of fans (but mainly the media) kept whining how the stewards have killed racing after Canada - will be interesting to see how/where it all ends.

I'm paraphrasing here but after Austria Leclerc said that it's apparent you can drive dirty and get away with it
I think there is a fine line between dirty racing and hard racing. Hard racing is good to watch, and during the few fights Verstappen and Leclerc had this year, if felt more hard racing to me than dirty racing (fan's from both sides will probably call out the other driver for being dirty). The same kind of fine like there is between dirty racing and making mistakes (like Vettel in Canada). I presume Leclerc misjudged the distance between him and Bottas and I like it that this is seen as part of racing and nog directly given a penalty, although it was game over for Bottas.
Leclerc wanted to make sure Bottas could not move to the right for trying to maximize his radius. But he indeed misjudged that and drove over Bottas wing. Bottas wasn’t even moving yet. It seemed overly aggresive and indeed misjudged at the least. It was an opening lap incident, he got away with it.

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foxmulder_ms wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 22:04

Also Lerc deserved a penalty. He just hit Bottas with no reason what so ever.

He squeezed Bottas without fully clearing him first, caused him to take evasive action and damaged his wing which ruined his race. Lec should at least have gotten a 5 sec penalty there. Last race in Germany, and now today stewards have given him a free pass.
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05 Aug 2019, 00:06
Jolle wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:50
Hamilton is having one of this most dominating seasons. Eight wins out of twelve races
Yeah, he's going for the record 13 W's in a season. 5 more W's needed for it. Once he wins the championship in say Mex, he may ease off a bit.
Ham needs 6 wins out of 9 remaining races to break the all time 'most wins in a season' record. He's won 8 out of 12, just needs to do what he has done so far. 5 to equal Vettel(2013) and Schumacher(2004).
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NathanOlder wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:03
The sim is not real life so its not 100% accurate. surely thats not too hard to fathom
Nobody, can outperform, overachieve etc. But that is just a word game. This was one in the 3 times I have heared Max state he was very happy with his qualy laps and felt he had not left anything significant on the table. I believe he did a remarkable lap, the RBR package is not Merc level yet. I had hoped it was (on this track) but I don’t think it is yet. All imho Ofcourse.

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Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:59

How would you describe it if any driver sets a quali time- not possible to replicate in the sims.. or what they thought was even possible?
If the car does the lap time, then the car is capable of doing the lap time. The driver can't make the car go faster than it is capable of going. The best drivers get nearer to the limit of the car than the rest, but that's all they can ever do. They can not lap faster than the car is physically able to lap.
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Schuttelberg wrote:
Diesel wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 21:34
Schuttelberg wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 21:07
Lewis might think he's very funny in PC but he's a proper d!ck sometimes if you ask me. I don't remember where exactly, but he had a nice old jibe at Honda once and what he said about Pierre today was extremely disrespectful and left a filthy taste in the mouth! No one stays on top forever and there will come a day where he will be under the hammer and I know exactly how he will react if someone says something like that about him! Wonder how he would have felt if someone had called him crap in 2011?
Can you share the source? It seems like everyone else missed it so you must have been watching/reading something different to everyone else...
Check out the press conference. Insinuating that Gasly needs to be replaced at RBR with Alonso.
Do you not think that Gashly needs to be replaced though? That's the 2nd time this year that's he's been lapped by his team mate...plus Alonso in that seat will be a big improvement over Gashly.


Silly season idea but what about Danni Ric going back to RB.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:13
Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:59

How would you describe it if any driver sets a quali time- not possible to replicate in the sims.. or what they thought was even possible?
If the car does the lap time, then the car is capable of doing the lap time. The driver can't make the car go faster than it is capable of going. The best drivers get nearer to the limit of the car than the rest, but that's all they can ever do. They can not lap faster than the car is physically able to lap.
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Zarathustra wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:59
How would you describe it if any driver sets a quali time- not possible to replicate in the sims.. or what they thought was even possible?
As either PR shenanigans or correlations issues between the simulators and real life.

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Car allow impression Pusher it is then.

Come on Guys, stop all these word games and just listen to what Max had to say about it himselve.

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Justthatek wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:20
Schuttelberg wrote:
Diesel wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 21:34


Can you share the source? It seems like everyone else missed it so you must have been watching/reading something different to everyone else...
Check out the press conference. Insinuating that Gasly needs to be replaced at RBR with Alonso.
Do you not think that Gashly needs to be replaced though? That's the 2nd time this year that's he's been lapped by his team mate...plus Alonso in that seat will be a big improvement over Gashly.


Silly season idea but what about Danni Ric going back to RB.

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Alonso back in a Honda car?
Ric has issues with teammates

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RZS10 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:55
Pyrone89 wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:43
This is the second time the FIA is extremely kind to LEC and I feel the ‘nice well mannered boy next door’ facade is fading and we are seeing the true LEC who himself screams over the radio when someone races HIM hard for a change.
It's might also be a consequence of the leniency in Austria and Silverstone after Ferrari and a lot of fans (but mainly the media) kept whining how the stewards have killed racing after Canada - will be interesting to see how/where it all ends.

I'm paraphrasing here but after Austria Leclerc said that it's apparent you can drive dirty and get away with it
Leclerc is sour about being passed with a hard but fair racing tactic and now as a response is doing downright unacceptable things.
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Shrieker wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:10
foxmulder_ms wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 22:04

Also Lerc deserved a penalty. He just hit Bottas with no reason what so ever.

He squeezed Bottas without fully clearing him first, caused him to take evasive action and damaged his wing which ruined his race. Lec should at least have gotten a 5 sec penalty there. Last race in Germany, and now today stewards have given him a free pass.
spin1/2 wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:06
Jolle wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:50
Hamilton is having one of this most dominating seasons. Eight wins out of twelve races
Yeah, he's going for the record 13 W's in a season. 5 more W's needed for it. Once he wins the championship in say Mex, he may ease off a bit.
Ham needs 6 wins out of 9 remaining races to break the all time 'most wins in a season' record. He's won 8 out of 12, just needs to do what he has done so far. 5 to equal Vettel(2013) and Schumacher(2004).
And people still question wether the W10 is the best car in the last 31 years. This car has 10 out of 12 victories so far
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Pyrone89 wrote:
05 Aug 2019, 00:49
And people still question wether the W10 is the best car in the last 31 years. This car has 10 out of 12 victories so far
It shouldn't have though. It lucked in to wins in Bahrain and Canada.

You do realise that we all realise that your continually bringing this up is an attempt to say that someone is only winning because of his car, yes? It's funny, really. :wink:
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By the way, Sainz beating Gasley must the nail in his coffin. kyvaat to redbull for the second half.
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Sieper wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:12
Polarit wrote:
04 Aug 2019, 23:02
Hamilton had a pace advantage and he was much better on his tyres on the first stint.

In the second he was getting ready for another push so the pressure inning a Verstappen would’ve been very similar and with 6 lap fresher tyres I think the result is the same.
Very similar? Hamilton was 1,5 second faster the Verstappen on the end of the 3rd stint. Restomaniac made a more accurate estimation imho.
In the sense that he backed off and was getting ready to push him into DRS and try the over take being right behind him. He’d of still used his tyres, probably more so defending.

Same outcome with a Hamilton win.