2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

[IvailoStefanovBG]

on 27 old hard tyres Max bulled 3 great laps 53,54,55 post respectively green 1:19.560 and plus 2 tenths 1:19.851 , 1:19.813 against 3 laps old medium with Hamilton, destroyed his hards
they should of gamble the soft in lap 56 going low 18, there was a chance, they caved with nothing to lose, hopefully
a good lesson to be braver later on.
http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?page ... 20Hamilton

Yes but the car was approximately 38 kilos lighter on lap 53...

not aware that Hamilton refueled ?!!

I`m talking about race pace on hards. There was the big difference. On mediums Max and Ham were pretty even.

[Bill_Kar]

i would go for albon, simply a better qualifier, and the races he can match kyatt race pace in some races. and he isyoung which mean he will grow further

There is no chance they go down that road after Gasly's shenanigans.

[Pyrone89]

From the latest comments of Marko (we will see after the summer) it seems he has now also changed his mind. Four weeks is enough time to make new overalls and fancy nr. 26 stickers for the car.

[diffuser]

Talking about 2019 WDC we should talk about luck too. Car is ok, engine is ok. If luck is on our side winning 2019 season is possible. All these years luck has been on Lewis's side. It's time for change now...

Luck is a 2 way street. When you say "If luck is on our side" , you could argue that it has been. Max has had several contacts with other cars ....If luck wasn't with him, all those contacts could have ended up in flat tires just after passing the opening of the pits. You could also argue that Max pushes his luck.

You want to talk about bad luck? Look at Bottas. How many times this year has someone made contact with him(not his fault) and he's ended up in the pits cause of it?

[diffuser]

This is not the original. It may be a little inaccurate.

“It hurts us that only one of our riders is ahead,” said the head of Red Bull Racing. - Especially it concerns glasses in the Cup of designers. Gusli just needs to think over the first half of the season and learn from it during the break. To fight the Ferrari, we vitally need it to finish higher. ”

Speaking about the performance of Pierre at the Hungaroring, Horner did not defend his pilot.

“This weekend brought him disappointment,” Christian said. - He started poorly, had a poor first round. We must not fight with Sauber and McLaren. We need him to fight with Ferrari and Mercedes. The problem is that Pierre is not involved in the fight at all. There is no such thing that after a pit stop, Lewis rode behind him. But today, both Mercedes and Red Bull were one-legged, as their second cars dropped out of the fight. "

Horner noted that the team is still counting on Gasly, but expect him to seriously improve his form: “We want to leave Pierre behind the wheel until the end of the season. But we desperately need it to realize the potential of the machine. "

It's funny

Hamilton: Well, firstly that's really awesome that he's supportive. I was watching some of the starts of previous years and watching him in his Renault days, remembering before I got to Formula One watching how amazing their starts were... I don't know how old Fernando is now but if he's always going to be a great driver. If he can get a good seat he is always welcome to battle with us. It doesn't make a difference necessarily to me, I'm here to fight whoever is here.

Verstappen: I think it was a bit of a shame I never had the chance to fight him in F1.

Hamilton: He'd be a good teammate for you ...

Verstappen: You had experience with it, I don't know.

Vettel: He doesn't want to [remember].

Hamilton: Speak to Christian!

Verstappen: [laughs] Well...

*Vettel is asked the question*

Vettel: I don't mind -- I don't think he ever really like me, I don't really know why! I don't mind him, I respect him for what he achieved and what he did on track. Bring him back, I don't mind.

Verstappen: Maybe he's a social media manager! No, to me he's always been very nice and good. I like that he is also now looking into other opportunities for racing. He just loves racing and he wants to win, he wants to be competitive. It's good to see.

Hamilton: This sport needs the best drivers in the best seats, you know. And there's still at least a seat available that's good enough for winning, and he's good enough for winning so it wouldn't be such a bad thing...

Verstappen: Maybe he can speak to Toto [Wolff]?

Hamilton: Well, Valtteri's great, Valtteri's been winning! You're the one with the extra seat, I would say...

Verstappen: [hands raised in the air] I didn't say that!

get over it , let it go its not happening
GP2 engine .. now we can fight , bashing Arai , bashing Hasegawa..mocking Honda continuously
can't see Honda swallow their pride over Alonso.
perhaps RBR need to ditch GAS immediately , maybe Marko praying for Gas to go and Hornor as well , even Honda
want Gas go but Alonso is not a possibility.. seems kvyat not an option as if RBR already has a pre contract with some one for 2020.
if iam an engineer at Sakura i won't be happy seeing Alonso reaping my sweat and huge efforts.
Alonso not appreciated by all at Honda - Hasegawa
https://f1i.com/news/282735-alonso-not- ... egawa.html

I don't think it's gonna happen either but did you read that article or just that 1 line?

Hasegawa denied however paddock claims that Alonso is "too political" a driver, and conceded that it was the Spaniard's prerogative to dispense criticism.

"No, not at all," he said. "Alonso criticised us because he was not satisfied, as he had every right.

"There are people at Honda who were not happy with Alonso's attitude, but for me it was not a problem.

"I am personally very disappointed that I did not give him a good engine, but here in F1 it is difficult for everyone to be happy.

"Because he was not happy, it is very difficult to establish a good working relationship," Hasegawa added. "But of course it was not personal.

"Alonso did his job, as he was a good professional. But drivers are very emotional guys and you have to understand when they behave like that," he said.

"If he had the best car, would he be happy? Yes, and that is why we cannot complain."

[Bill_Kar]

Talking about 2019 WDC we should talk about luck too. Car is ok, engine is ok. If luck is on our side winning 2019 season is possible. All these years luck has been on Lewis's side. It's time for change now...

Luck is a 2 way street. When you say "If luck is on our side" , you could argue that it has been. Max has had several contacts with other cars ....If luck wasn't with him, all those contacts could have ended up in flat tires just after passing the opening of the pits. You could also argue that Max pushes his luck.

You want to talk about bad luck? Look at Bottas. How many times this year has someone made contact with him(not his fault) and he's ended up in the pits cause of it?

Last year certainly (Baku, France, Russia come to mind) but this year I wouldn't call him unlucky.

Sure, he lost a 2nd place in Monaco (he finished 3rd) and a 3rd place in Hungary through no fault of his own but nothing abnormal.

He has lost far more being off the pace or not having good starts or mistakes (Bahrain, China, Spain, Canada, UK, Germany).

[subcritical71]

I don't think it's gonna happen either but did you read that article or just that 1 line?

Hasegawa denied however paddock claims that Alonso is "too political" a driver, and conceded that it was the Spaniard's prerogative to dispense criticism.

"No, not at all," he said. "Alonso criticised us because he was not satisfied, as he had every right.

"There are people at Honda who were not happy with Alonso's attitude, but for me it was not a problem.

"I am personally very disappointed that I did not give him a good engine, but here in F1 it is difficult for everyone to be happy.

"Because he was not happy, it is very difficult to establish a good working relationship," Hasegawa added. "But of course it was not personal.

"Alonso did his job, as he was a good professional. But drivers are very emotional guys and you have to understand when they behave like that," he said.

"If he had the best car, would he be happy? Yes, and that is why we cannot complain."

I also didn't get the impression that Hasegawa was 'upset' at Alonso from the posted article (re: "Alonso not appreciated by all at Honda - Hasegawa". Quite the contrary. Disrupters are good in an organization as it makes you see beyond where you think you can be. Its always good to have someone pushing you. He acknowledged that and understood it. Seems like a good business person as he looks beyond the emotion and understands the underlying, maybe unspoken reason for the comment.

[Marti_EF3]

You think Alonso will accept even equal treatment on a team?? If he returns, he will want another championship, or at least fighting for it. I don't know if it's the best option right now for the team. Having 2 top tier drivers with a strong personality...

[Sieper]

If Alonso return he deserves to be in a top seat. But for Max this is not a good perspective. Nor would Honda accept it I think. Max has actually gotten more points now that his teammate is struggling as before when he had a good team mate with Ricciardo. Sure it would be better to have a strong wingman but no way that Alonso will ever do that (nor should he).

[Pyrone89]

If Alonso return he deserves to be in a top seat. But for Max this is not a good perspective. Nor would Honda accept it I think. Max has actually gotten more points now that his teammate is struggling as before when he had a good team mate with Ricciardo. Sure it would be better to have a strong wingman but no way that Alonso will ever do that (nor should he).

I think Max has stepped it up massively since Monaco 2018. After that (so before RIC announced he was going away, for all the conspiracy theorists) he was almost constantly well clear of RIC in qualyfing (check the 2018 qualy averages thread here https://forums.autosport.com/topic/2093 ... omsearch=1) and in the race Max was well ahead every time at the point of the race that RIC dnf’ed. But a lot of people ite ‘we cant compare them due to dnf’. Yes we can if people are willing to do some actual research.

To be honest I dont think it would be wise for Alonso’s image if he joined Max at Red Bull even if Honda allowed it.

[SmallSoldier]

You think Alonso will accept even equal treatment on a team?? If he returns, he will want another championship, or at least fighting for it. I don't know if it's the best option right now for the team. Having 2 top tier drivers with a strong personality...

He would probably accept equal treatment... He wouldn’t accept number 2 treatment.

With such strong personalities, managing them both in the team would be a challenge... Both are drivers than won’t accept team orders.

It would be a great pairing though and a good measuring stick for Max also.


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[Pyrone89]

You think Alonso will accept even equal treatment on a team?? If he returns, he will want another championship, or at least fighting for it. I don't know if it's the best option right now for the team. Having 2 top tier drivers with a strong personality...

He would probably accept equal treatment... He wouldn’t accept number 2 treatment.

With such strong personalities, managing them both in the team would be a challenge... Both are drivers than won’t accept team orders.

It would be a great pairing though and a good measuring stick for Max also.


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Max is already fighting with LH who has better material. RB dont need a measuring stick anymore for Max. They can however surely do without someone that has a cloud of team harmony toxicity everywhere he went.

[SmallSoldier]

You think Alonso will accept even equal treatment on a team?? If he returns, he will want another championship, or at least fighting for it. I don't know if it's the best option right now for the team. Having 2 top tier drivers with a strong personality...

He would probably accept equal treatment... He wouldn’t accept number 2 treatment.

With such strong personalities, managing them both in the team would be a challenge... Both are drivers than won’t accept team orders.

It would be a great pairing though and a good measuring stick for Max also.


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Max is already fighting with LH who has better material. RB dont need a measuring stick anymore for Max. They can however surely do without someone that has a cloud of team harmony toxicity everywhere he went.

Having a great driver using the same car would be a better test for him.


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[Pyrone89]

He would probably accept equal treatment... He wouldn’t accept number 2 treatment.

With such strong personalities, managing them both in the team would be a challenge... Both are drivers than won’t accept team orders.

It would be a great pairing though and a good measuring stick for Max also.


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Max is already fighting with LH who has better material. RB dont need a measuring stick anymore for Max. They can however surely do without someone that has a cloud of team harmony toxicity everywhere he went.

Having a great driver using the same car would be a better test for him.


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Offcourse, just like it would be a better test if Lewis and Max both have a Mercedes. However some things dont need to be tested anymore: we know Max is epic, Lewis is epic and them together would be epic (if not for team orders). And Max already had RIC for almost 3 seasons, who himself best Vettel clearly, in only his first year in RB

Your post makes it look like Verstappen is still some uncertain prospect which need further testing to see if he is actually good, which sounds very weird.

[loner]

You think Alonso will accept even equal treatment on a team?? If he returns, he will want another championship, or at least fighting for it. I don't know if it's the best option right now for the team. Having 2 top tier drivers with a strong personality...

Hamilton mocking Gas and push for a toxic atmosphere at RBR.. surely RBR not that dumb taking such bait.
most peaceful solution is to swap kvyat and Gas , till Abudhabi good test for kvyat commitment and persistence.