2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 19:02
godlameroso wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 18:58
We said that about Gasly.
Well, we'll have to talk about it on Sunday. But I've a better feeling from Albon than Gasly
I never said that about Gasly, I had my doubts about him.
I agree with you @Marti. His adaptation to the STR was pretty impressive. He never drove an F1 car before
and he did well on tracks he never was before in other classes !

Edit: Thanks for the interview with Albon @Marti!
The Power of Dreams!

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it will be tough for albon ,will need a few races to rewire his style to match the rbr car

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Starting from back of grid can give him a chance to impress us. If it is hard it is better for showing his talent if he is a promising one

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a small explanation of Horner about the why's on the gasly demotion and why they took Albon

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red- ... o/4524859/
"We considered Daniil of course, he's doing a very good job with Toro Rosso this year," he said. "But we felt a few things: one it would perhaps be hurting Toro Rosso too much by taking their most experienced driver away. And we always felt we've got a pretty good understanding of Daniil.

"He's been in the programme for some time. He's driven for Red Bull Racing previously. And we were quite keen to have a look at Albon based on his emerging ability during the first 12 race period."

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Of all the pu manufacturers Honda seems to be the only one bringing performance gains in terms of horsepower numbers if you listen to statements from drivers from other teams, romours has it Ferrari will not bring spec3 to Monza apparently it adds nothing.

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hasika wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 11:17
Tanabe san interview(only part translation of the article )
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=2019 ... 7-rcg-moto
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Thank you Hasika-san, here's Part 2 and 3 I've translated.
part 2
On the possibility of using Spec3 from here on including Suzuka
q: Fundamentally, I would think that the ICE improvement is indispensable, so in that regard can we say that the progress is big?
a: Just think of it as an evolution of Spec3

q: For the remaining races, will Spec3 be used based on the circuit?
a: Ofcourse, its obvious that the newest Spec is best, but taking into account penalties it's not unfathomable to continue using a previous spec. This is ongoing through the year.

q: It seemed that Spec4 itself was ready for some time, so was it simply gauging when to
introduce it?
a: Since we entered the 3 week break we were able to align a number of necessary things. With that, from after summer break considering that there are successive high speed circuits, we decided to time the introduction in Belgium.

q: are there also fuel updates?
a: it will not be introduced at the same time.

q: stop to think of it, after the introduction of spec3 was there a struggle for
calibration? There were the high temps and turbo lags issues.
a: Admittedly after the introduction, we've added improvements. We battled through the races while sorting out all the last bits. It justs that compared to the status of the Spec3 introduction from last year, the learnings from after the upgrade went quite smoothly.

q: Is the fact that you've introduced this Spec4 with 9 remaining races indicative of more updates to come?
a: ... we will try! (laugh) While we have to look at the various circumstances, yet with every upgrade will come penalties. That is what we need to think through.

On Pierre Gasly and Alexander Albon swapping
q: For instance with the constructors championship battle for 2nd with Ferrari, it looks like its going to be
a balancing act of improved performance and penalties?
a: There is that as well. Ofcourse there is also Toro Rosso's battle for 5th which is important. We are aware of the competition.

q: Regarding the recent Red Bull driver swap. Your personal thoughts on that?
a: Personally i was shocked, but it doesn't change what we do on Honda side. The staff do not move with the driver, and our work flow up is set up such that the drivers can be swapped in.

q: For good measure, was there discussion on rearranging staff?
a: We did, but it didn't really amount to a discussion.

q: From Honda-side, would it have been more desirable to not have a mid-season driver swap?
a: This is a team matter, and we will respect the decision they made. Above all this time it's a swap between teams that use the same power unit and it's not like a driver from a different team joined. It did not cause us any inconvenience. We wishfor both teams to be forward looking.
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Tanabe: "Both of the new PUs ran trouble-free and we have plenty of data from them that we can study overnight, as we prepare our settings for qualifying and the race. However, Max mentioned that the power cut out occasionally, so we must look into that now."
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/races/2019 ... b=practice

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I think Albon is quite good. I would be highly surprised If it would go like with Gasly.

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I think that everything is good under the current circumstances, given that Red Bull had to work with reduced power. Ferrari often work on Friday with more power than Mercedes and Honda. Honda didn’t even close use the new motor to the maximum; obviously, cartography is being set up and a general check of the engine’s operation is underway.
Mercedes, as usual, is very strong in simulation of the race, and Red Bull, despite a good time, did not have a long series and their pace in the race is not yet clear.


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GhostF1 wrote:
30 Aug 2019, 15:48
Crofty, Karun and Brundle are saying from what they are hearing, the Spec 4 is apparently significantly more powerful than the Spec 3, and is on par with Mercedes. They eagerly anticipate being able to see the Spec used in anger in qualifying. This unlikely here as Alex is starting from the back.
well assuming spec 4 was in safe mode for calibration yesterday they should turn the wick today and Albon should shine
his performance yesterday was a bit Gas esque given the fact he had the upgraded PU.
para bellum.

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Tanabe and Honda people said spec 4 will close gap to Ferrari they never said anything specifically about Mercedes. The only generic thing was about closing gap to the "leaders " . Who is to say spec3 was not already a match for Mercedes the were actually quicker in silverstone straights and high speed corners. This journalist are full of bullshit there whole career depends on being preserved as "expect " or insiders but they are neither any of those. These are the same people who confidently prophesied Ferrari will be the team to beat this season and they haven't won even a single race.As for team they always downplay their strength unless you are Cyril

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Max isn't getting the spec 4 at spa and wasn't even using spec 3 from my understanding. He was using an older PU that Red Bull use on Fridays to preserve mileage on the newer race unit because their PU's haven't actually blown up. Albon is the guinea pig for the spec 4 and it might be possible that Max takes his penalty at either monza or russia

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This^^^

Albon won't use it to its full potential for quali. He's focusing on race pace. Max had a Spec 2 in the car yesterday, he has his Spec 3 back in today.

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Max was unable to do a single fast lap without traffic or issues. A shame, but on qualifying I think we are the 3rd team here (maybe some surprises, but I don't think so)

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Max should revert to rear wing he used on Friday then he would be in the mix ,Ferrari race pace is nothing special