2019 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 06 - 08

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Tire information:

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Tire stress of 5. That's going to play a role in terms of race degradation.

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I expect normal service to be resumed, Ferrari with better single lap performance, Merc with better race pace and tire longevity.

Last year with Lewis the Mercedes was great exiting parabolica, this is key to passing into turn one.

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Pole isn't as important as some other tracks. Top speed to fly by with DRS is. With the speed differential between the Ferrari, and Mercedes vs the rest at a track like this, they will be super super skinny.... whoever goes for pole, will loose to a race/overtake setup.

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Weather forcast for now shows some very light rain in sat/sun night, but basically sunny and 25C on Fri/Sat, Sun a little warmer with 27C ...

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/ ... ecast.aspx
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Breaking DRS tow will be critical for whoever leads. Raikkonen never managed to escape, and that meant Hamilton was always going to be in prime position later in the race.

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I think Ferrari should have enough pace for a 1-2 here. They will be on pole by a good margin and then in the race will just be too fast on the straight to overtake. Their acceleration in the middle of the straight was what made it really hard to overtake in Spa.
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Jolle wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 23:43
Pole isn't as important as some other tracks. Top speed to fly by with DRS is. With the speed differential between the Ferrari, and Mercedes vs the rest at a track like this, they will be super super skinny.... whoever goes for pole, will loose to a race/overtake setup.
Agreed re: pole, but Ferrari was nearly able to match Mercedes' DRS-and-slipstream assisted top speed up the Kemmel Straight... given lower tyre wear around Monza and use of softer compounds (which suit Ferrari better), I just don't see how Monza isn't another front-row lockout for Ferrari, and a more likely 1-2.

Rain could be on the forecast for both Friday and Sunday.

https://www.meteo.it/meteo/monza-5-giorni-108033

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SiLo wrote:
03 Sep 2019, 11:22
I think Ferrari should have enough pace for a 1-2 here. They will be on pole by a good margin and then in the race will just be too fast on the straight to overtake. Their acceleration in the middle of the straight was what made it really hard to overtake in Spa.
This is their advantage indeed. The car's acceleration is ridiculous, if you notice the gear changes, they fly from 3rd to 6th gear in a blink of an eye, it's like 4th and 5th last for less than a second. The PU has some serious power across its rev range.
For Sure!!

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Additionally to a few comments above, I noticed the Mercedes were clipping much more towards the end of the straight - peaking around 318-19 and dropping back to 309-310 before braking. Ferrari were able to maintain 320+ right to the end of the straight, lap after lap. Pretty impressive.

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mkay wrote:
03 Sep 2019, 12:30
Jolle wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 23:43
Pole isn't as important as some other tracks. Top speed to fly by with DRS is. With the speed differential between the Ferrari, and Mercedes vs the rest at a track like this, they will be super super skinny.... whoever goes for pole, will loose to a race/overtake setup.
Agreed re: pole, but Ferrari was nearly able to match Mercedes' DRS-and-slipstream assisted top speed up the Kemmel Straight... given lower tyre wear around Monza and use of softer compounds (which suit Ferrari better), I just don't see how Monza isn't another front-row lockout for Ferrari, and a more likely 1-2.

Rain could be on the forecast for both Friday and Sunday.

https://www.meteo.it/meteo/monza-5-giorni-108033
If rain is forecast, Ferrari risk falling out of the top 10 frankly. They’ve been terrible in the wet essentially since 2009, for lord knows what reason. This year is obviously connected to downforce, but ‘17, ‘18? I don’t think so, but they were still terrible

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JPBD1990 wrote:
04 Sep 2019, 08:18
mkay wrote:
03 Sep 2019, 12:30
Jolle wrote:
02 Sep 2019, 23:43
Pole isn't as important as some other tracks. Top speed to fly by with DRS is. With the speed differential between the Ferrari, and Mercedes vs the rest at a track like this, they will be super super skinny.... whoever goes for pole, will loose to a race/overtake setup.
Agreed re: pole, but Ferrari was nearly able to match Mercedes' DRS-and-slipstream assisted top speed up the Kemmel Straight... given lower tyre wear around Monza and use of softer compounds (which suit Ferrari better), I just don't see how Monza isn't another front-row lockout for Ferrari, and a more likely 1-2.

Rain could be on the forecast for both Friday and Sunday.

https://www.meteo.it/meteo/monza-5-giorni-108033
If rain is forecast, Ferrari risk falling out of the top 10 frankly. They’ve been terrible in the wet essentially since 2009, for lord knows what reason. This year is obviously connected to downforce, but ‘17, ‘18? I don’t think so, but they were still terrible
The probability for rain and thunderstorms on both Friday and Sunday is increasing.

70% or greater chance of rain and storms on Friday and Sunday, with rain continuing through Monday.

https://twitter.com/SmilexTech/status/1 ... 97696?s=20

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Wet Monza is such a good event. Most tracks are very much set in their setup, but here if its forecast for rain you can gamble on a high downforce setup.
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"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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at least it will be an somewhat interesting race this weekend with Verstappen from the back of the field

in front it might be a boring thing (if the weather stays dry)

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Ferrari surely will be so fast in qualifying at this track
Depends on how they approach set up, will try improve tyre management and give up so quali speed to have better race pace.

All about balance, they could be on pole by a distance if they wanted to.