2019 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 27 - 29 September

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Re: 2019 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 27 - 29 September

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Bill_Kar wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 10:57
I swear Di Resta has a picture of Hamilton in his bedroom and he's throwing darts at it.
Glad somebody else noticed. Did you hear how quickly he tried to make out Hamilton wasn’t a team player and how gutted he sounded when Davidson pointed out Budapest :lol:

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Leclerc just looks naturally faster driver then Vettel. People are making excuses for him such as "stable rear end" "needs this and that", but Leclerc is record holder of poles in F2, he outqualified Ericsson by huge margin and after first few races, Marcus couldn't get close to him entire year.

Marcus might not be super fast, but he was relatively close to Werhlein, who is not slow driver by any means. Leclerc is looking to have few tenths on Vettel every time they are out, worse then it was vs Riccardo.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 09:13
Cool diagram showing usage of ICE.
(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)
https://i.redd.it/7q17jjk7kzo31.png
I don`t think it`s pretty accurate that above graph ...
For instance, Perez has had failures on the 3rd Merc PU spec in Spa and in Monza. He also has had on at Singapore but in all the last 3 cases he received a 2nd spec PU which was brand new only in Spa ...
Then, as ziggy43 said quoting AMuS, Merc was using spec 2 at Singapore, which was the logical move, as GPR-A said before but here in the graph we could see they run the 3rd spec ...

Furthermore, Perez said on Sky in FP1 that his team will receive a new 3rd spec PU at the end of the season coz Merc has some issues with this spec, which echoes Toto`s half mouthed statement when he said on Spa that they run their engine slightly compromised and rumours saying also in Monza they didn`t run in the highest PU race mode (hence Lewis`s asking for more power when was trying to pass Charles) ...
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atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 11:54
MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 09:13
Cool diagram showing usage of ICE.
(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)
https://i.redd.it/7q17jjk7kzo31.png
I don`t think it`s pretty accurate that above graph ...
For instance, Perez has had failures on the 3rd Merc PU spec in Spa and in Monza. He also has had on at Singapore but in all the last 3 cases he received a 2nd spec PU which was brand new only in Spa ...
Then, as ziggy43 said quoting AMuS, Merc was using spec 2 at Singapore, which was the logical move, as GPR-A said before but here in the graph we could see they run the 3rd spec ...

Furthermore, Perez said on Sky in FP1 that his team will receive a new 3rd spec PU at the end of the season coz Merc has some issues with this spec, which echoes Toto`s half mouthed statement when he said on Spa that they run their engine slightly compromised and rumours saying also in Monza they didn`t run in the highest PU race mode (hence Lewis`s asking for more power when was trying to pass Charles) ...
MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“

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Restomaniac wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 11:08
Bill_Kar wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 10:57
I swear Di Resta has a picture of Hamilton in his bedroom and he's throwing darts at it.
Glad somebody else noticed. Did you hear how quickly he tried to make out Hamilton wasn’t a team player and how gutted he sounded when Davidson pointed out Budapest :lol:
This is the reason I watch FPs without commentary nowadays, just with FX sound. He is talking a lot and he is biased af.
Anthony is class, at least compared to him.

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LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:02
atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 11:54
MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 09:13
Cool diagram showing usage of ICE.
(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)
https://i.redd.it/7q17jjk7kzo31.png
I don`t think it`s pretty accurate that above graph ...
For instance, Perez has had failures on the 3rd Merc PU spec in Spa and in Monza. He also has had on at Singapore but in all the last 3 cases he received a 2nd spec PU which was brand new only in Spa ...
Then, as ziggy43 said quoting AMuS, Merc was using spec 2 at Singapore, which was the logical move, as GPR-A said before but here in the graph we could see they run the 3rd spec ...

Furthermore, Perez said on Sky in FP1 that his team will receive a new 3rd spec PU at the end of the season coz Merc has some issues with this spec, which echoes Toto`s half mouthed statement when he said on Spa that they run their engine slightly compromised and rumours saying also in Monza they didn`t run in the highest PU race mode (hence Lewis`s asking for more power when was trying to pass Charles) ...
MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“
Ok, I got it! That`s the Perez and Kubica`s cases. But how about the 2nd spec Merc was using in Singapore which in that graph says it was the 3rd one instead?

And regarding the Merc setup info where I got from, you should hear what Peter Windsor, Marc Priestley and some folks on Mixed Apex F1 podcast said about this matter on Youtube ...
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atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:23
LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:02
atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 11:54


I don`t think it`s pretty accurate that above graph ...
For instance, Perez has had failures on the 3rd Merc PU spec in Spa and in Monza. He also has had on at Singapore but in all the last 3 cases he received a 2nd spec PU which was brand new only in Spa ...
Then, as ziggy43 said quoting AMuS, Merc was using spec 2 at Singapore, which was the logical move, as GPR-A said before but here in the graph we could see they run the 3rd spec ...

Furthermore, Perez said on Sky in FP1 that his team will receive a new 3rd spec PU at the end of the season coz Merc has some issues with this spec, which echoes Toto`s half mouthed statement when he said on Spa that they run their engine slightly compromised and rumours saying also in Monza they didn`t run in the highest PU race mode (hence Lewis`s asking for more power when was trying to pass Charles) ...
MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“
Ok, I got it! That`s the Perez and Kubica`s cases. But how about the 2nd spec Merc was using in Singapore which in that graph says it was the 3rd one instead?

And regarding the Merc setup info where I got from, you should hear what Peter Windsor, Marc Priestley and some folks on Mixed Apex F1 podcast said about this matter on Youtube ...
I'm lazy I know, but what do they say in a nutshell?

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Bill_Kar wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:46
atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:23
LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:02


MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“
Ok, I got it! That`s the Perez and Kubica`s cases. But how about the 2nd spec Merc was using in Singapore which in that graph says it was the 3rd one instead?

And regarding the Merc setup info where I got from, you should hear what Peter Windsor, Marc Priestley and some folks on Mixed Apex F1 podcast said about this matter on Youtube ...
I'm lazy I know, but what do they say in a nutshell?
Ferrari went for a full qualy setup like almost everybody did bar Merc and the reason was they were overconfident about their superior race pace in general but most of all in Singapore ... ...
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atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:23
LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:02
atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 11:54


I don`t think it`s pretty accurate that above graph ...
For instance, Perez has had failures on the 3rd Merc PU spec in Spa and in Monza. He also has had on at Singapore but in all the last 3 cases he received a 2nd spec PU which was brand new only in Spa ...
Then, as ziggy43 said quoting AMuS, Merc was using spec 2 at Singapore, which was the logical move, as GPR-A said before but here in the graph we could see they run the 3rd spec ...

Furthermore, Perez said on Sky in FP1 that his team will receive a new 3rd spec PU at the end of the season coz Merc has some issues with this spec, which echoes Toto`s half mouthed statement when he said on Spa that they run their engine slightly compromised and rumours saying also in Monza they didn`t run in the highest PU race mode (hence Lewis`s asking for more power when was trying to pass Charles) ...
MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“
Ok, I got it! That`s the Perez and Kubica`s cases. But how about the 2nd spec Merc was using in Singapore which in that graph says it was the 3rd one instead?

And regarding the Merc setup info where I got from, you should hear what Peter Windsor, Marc Priestley and some folks on Mixed Apex F1 podcast said about this matter on Youtube ...
The graph is not about the spec but the amout of ICE in the pool for each event so to speak.

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I am guessing this will not have an impact on Kvyat or the race this weekend?
https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1176426285272354816
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In FP1 Merc was the only top team which used the M tyres, the C3 one which has the operation window between 105 and 135 degrees Celsius.

But what was interesting to see is that they did a short sim stint on them setting similar lap times level as Ferrari did on the S tyre - C4, which by the way has a working window between 90 and 120 deg.C.

So I think they are willing to start the race on the M tyre and then switch to the S tyre, knowing that: a). S tyres have a low working window which is in the line with the ambient temps these days and particularly in the latter part of the race and b). here is a track with very low tyre degradation and wear, as Rosberg and recently last year Max showed us ...
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MtthsMlw wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 13:48
atanatizante wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:23
LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 12:02


MtthsMlw: „(this does not take in to account that you can reuse older ICE)“
Ok, I got it! That`s the Perez and Kubica`s cases. But how about the 2nd spec Merc was using in Singapore which in that graph says it was the 3rd one instead?

And regarding the Merc setup info where I got from, you should hear what Peter Windsor, Marc Priestley and some folks on Mixed Apex F1 podcast said about this matter on Youtube ...
The graph is not about the spec but the amout of ICE in the pool for each event so to speak.
Ok, my bad! Good to know, btw. ...
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I can't believe they're actually seriously talking about the insanity of "reverse championship sprint race grid formation" thing. So we complained about "ultra soft" and the rest being too confusing for tyre names and created actual confusion with two separate tyre names ... and now we're making it a whole lot more confusing with this insanity.

If they want zero consistency and "different winner" for the SAKE OF HAVING DIFFERENT RESULTS then just do away with points. Do away with anything that rewards performance.

Completely crazy I can't believe they don't see the irony and hypocrisy of the tyre-name complaints and now this.
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