2019 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, 27 - 29 September

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In FP1 Lewis reported some brake issues then went to the pits just to change them. Bottas had a DRS flap failure at the end of the session, prior to staying longer in the pits due to some back-to-back tests on the new and old 3rd damper ...
Then in FP2, according to Toto, they were struggling to put the balance on the car and the reason was that the tyres were not in the right window. Anyway, as Ant said on Sky they don`t look so good over a hot lap and he thinks that is presumably to carrying more fuel than the opposition ... To me, it seems that they are working on that new rumoured updates they`ll bring at Suzuka ...

Regarding race pace, in FP1 on the M tyres, they were on a par with Ferrari and VER both on the S tyre!
Then in FP2 VER was ahead of everybody both on S and M tyres.
Ferrari were splitting their workload with Charles being almost on par him, doing very consistent mid 1:39 on the S tyres, and just simulated what I think Merc are trying to do: the first stint on M tyres and the second one on the S ones. We have to keep in mind that we just had some 28 degrees Celsius on track when they did those sim laps which could the final race stint. VET was settings times which were a couple of tenths slower but he was also very consistent too on the M tyre.
And least but not last Merc: some scruffy laps from Lewis until the end when they show us a glimpse of what can they do, particularly on Bottas` case. My perception is that Lewis was simulating the last phase of the race on the S tyre and he was doing laps constantly on a low 1:40 as he was instructed to do so in order to stretch that stint as long as he could ...
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godlameroso wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:00
Verstappen is mighty quick, may be a repeat of Austria, might even have to make up the same number of places. Although 1st lap shunts are likely due to the nature of the track.
RB at the top of speed trap suggests they've been pushing their brand new PU harder than other teams have.

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LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:46
Bill wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:22
The track has 90 degrees corners like Austria Mercedes cars works best if the track has a sequence of corners like silverstone and Suzuka
Mercedes has been the class of the field on every type of corners, but especially slow speed which obviously includes 90 degree corners. Also today Mercedes, along with RBR, was the fastest car in S3.
If memory serves Bottas did the fastest sector 2 on 3 or 4 lap old softs. I think Max had the fastest sector 1 and 2 (set on his qually run).
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dans79 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:52
LM10 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:46
Bill wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:22
The track has 90 degrees corners like Austria Mercedes cars works best if the track has a sequence of corners like silverstone and Suzuka
Mercedes has been the class of the field on every type of corners, but especially slow speed which obviously includes 90 degree corners. Also today Mercedes, along with RBR, was the fastest car in S3.
If memory serves Bottas did the fastest sector 2 on 3 or 4 lap old softs. I think Max had the fastest sector 1 and 2 (set on his qually run).
He came on the radio immediately after setting that lap and said sector 3 was not so great (by him). He also stated post FP2 that the car came alive in sector3 (and they always do If the set-up is right). So so far at least it seems RBR are back on the right track (compared to Singapore).

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santos wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:44
GPR -A wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:24
Bill wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 16:22
The track has 90 degrees corners like Austria Mercedes cars works best if the track has a sequence of corners like silverstone and Suzuka
Then what happened in Baku?
Leclerc crashed...
What has that got to do with Mercedes' 90 degree corner performance? There was no guarantee that, even if he wouldn't have crashed, he would have taken pole and won the race. Don't use hypothetical explanations. He was fast ONLY due to Ferrari's straight line speed advantage.

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Ferrari are not gonna be on pole this weekend. They are too far behind in sector 3 to make up with power.

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Manfer wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 17:20
Ferrari are not gonna be on pole this weekend. They are too far behind in sector 3 to make up with power.
Judging too soon my friend. Max had its PU turned up for sure in FP2. Let's wait for Merc and Ferrari to turn up their PU's tomorrow.

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Manfer wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 17:20
Ferrari are not gonna be on pole this weekend. They are too far behind in sector 3 to make up with power.
Ferrari has at least 0.5s advantage over Mercedes through Sectors 1 and 2. Merc can't make up that much time in Sector 3.

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mkay wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 17:36
Manfer wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 17:20
Ferrari are not gonna be on pole this weekend. They are too far behind in sector 3 to make up with power.
Ferrari has at least 0.5s advantage over Mercedes through Sectors 1 and 2. Merc can't make up that much time in Sector 3.
Where did you see that? Bottas was 0.357 slower than Leclerc in S1. Leclerc was slower than Bottas by 0.003 in S2 and 0.104 slower in S3.

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The most interesting performance is from Perez! On Race sim, his times are faster than that of Lewis! He also did Softs and Mediums stint like Lewis did. But on quali run, Perez was almost 1.1 seconds slower than Lewis. Not sure what to concur out of it. This shows the variety and differences in PU modes.

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Sierra117 wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 15:43
Capharol wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 15:41
this is what i gathered during FP3, not 100% sure if correctly done

https://i.imgur.com/eBZXOXg.jpg
FP3?
meant FP2 #-o :lol:

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The fastest sector times.

S1
Ver - 33.916
Vet - 33.967
Lec - 33.969
Ham - 34.194
Bot - 34.326

S2
Bot - 32.145
Lec - 32.148
Ver - 32.184
Vet - 32.282
Ham - 32.316

S3
Ver - 27.062
Ham - 27.135
Bot - 27.276
Lec - 27.380
Vet - 27.621

Theoretical fastest lap based on the best sectors by team.

RBR - 93.162
MER - 93.474
FER - 93.495
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According to Hamilton, Mercedes loses 0.8 sec to Ferraris on the straights.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/930251/1/ ... -straights

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auv wrote:
27 Sep 2019, 18:34
According to Hamilton, Mercedes loses 0.8 sec to Ferraris on the straights.

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/930251/1/ ... -straights
which as you can see above your post isn't true, there they're fastest lap was only 0.2s in each sector

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Straights not sectors.