2019 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Oct 11 - 13

[nevill3]

Natalie asked the question and was told that it was safer to two stop....but there was a pause in the reply

[Restomaniac]

The same team helped Lewis in Singapore get over it

Did that cost the team a 1-2 too?

Mercedes obviously thought that Hamilton could overtake Vettel on the Softs at the end and they wanted to gift Bottas a win, rightly so, because he’s the perfect wingman.
Turned out that Hamilton couldn’t overtake Vettel, but the fresh Softs gave him the opportunity to get the fastest lap.

16 instead of 18 points after all. What a disaster!

Then they are idiots who haven’t been paying attention. The very second they pitted Hamilton and put him behind Vettel they had binned a 1-2 to massage Bottas’ ego.

[Restomaniac]

Natalie asked the question and was told that it was safer to two stop....but there was a pause in the reply

Probably because even he couldn’t believe the BS he was about to say.

[Justthatek]

Any reason why Lec didnt get a black flag for driving 2 laps with the front wing like and having it disintegrate into Hamilton?

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How dare you even think about asking such a ridiculous question.

GOOD HARD racing iirc.

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[Bill_Kar]

I am watching sky, why on earth no one has asked the drivers or management a straight forward and obvious question which is why did they pit Hamilton with 11 laps to go when he was around 8 seconds ahead and had tyres in good condition. At the very least he could have fought Bottas and there's no evidence Bottas would have even caught him. Vettel was miles behind so they lost a gauranteed 2nd position and I'd like to know why, even though we know it was to assist Bottas. Maybe they see it as payback for Singapore, where Bottas had to hold back, although that was a different scenario as they were on the same strategy and were fighting other cars. Here they were fighting each other on different strategies, which I believe they usually allow. Maybe they would say Bottas had to do a 2 stop to cover Vettel and so shouldn't be punished if 1 stop turned out to be better, but instead we just get told a lie that one stop wasn't possible. It's frustrating no one from sky is even picking up on this.

Possible excuse We had high deg, 1 stop was a risk, he wouldn't have made it to the end, tyre cliff blah blah blah

[dans79]

Did that cost the team a 1-2 too?

Mercedes obviously thought that Hamilton could overtake Vettel on the Softs at the end and they wanted to gift Bottas a win, rightly so, because he’s the perfect wingman.
Turned out that Hamilton couldn’t overtake Vettel, but the fresh Softs gave him the opportunity to get the fastest lap.

16 instead of 18 points after all. What a disaster!

Then they are idiots who haven’t been paying attention. The very second they pitted Hamilton and put him behind Vettel they had binned a 1-2 to massage Bottas’ ego.

Either they did it on purpose to make sure Bottas won, or their complete morons.

You have to have a substantial performance Delta to get buy any car at Suzuka, and that Delta will need to be even bigger to get past the Ferrari.

[tranquility2k4]

I would have at least liked to see a fight for the win, Bottas coming on fresher tyres and then worst case scenario ask Hamilton to let him by so he maintains 2nd but this pitting BS is ridiculous his tyres were fine, he was faster than Vettel and matching Bottas. If his tyres fell off the cliff they can pit and would be 3rd, oh wait...

[GPR-A]

Once again, Perez did not disappoint! He showed his trade mark "Chop Move".

[El Scorchio]

Here's the stewards' report for the 'alleged' (lol) false start

https://i.imgur.com/aBkvVtG.png

According to this article the rules regarding false starts have been amended for this season.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13196 ... jumpstarts

And those changes were made

36.13 Either of the penalties under Articles 38.3c) or d) will be imposed on any driver who is judged
to have :
a) Moved before the start signal is given, such judgement being made by an FIA approved
and supplied transponder fitted to each car, or ;
b) Positioned his car on the starting grid in such a way that the transponder is unable to
detect the moment at which the car first moved from its grid position after the start
signal is given.

Haha! Very good. In all honesty the report might as well have said that. ‘Yes it was obvious car 5 false started and probably led to two other cars colliding, but we decided to just let it slide because we felt like it today.’

It’s so flawed that they only considered that Vettel didn’t personally gain an advantage rather than the other consequences. Not to blame Vettel. It’s not his fault the stewards are dreadful and can’t do their job properly.

[tranquility2k4]

What is frustrating is they wrecked any chance of Hamilton doing a 2 stop by leaving him out for a 1 stop so he fell too far behind, and even told Bottas he needed to pass him, then at the last minute when he'd put in a solid stint on medium and was on for a chance to fight for the win at the very least they pit him for no apparent reason. Question - if Vettel was in P2 and not Bottas would they have pitted? Of course not. I fully believe Hamilton would have stayed out and ignored the order had it not been likely they would win the WCC today, he probably didn't want to undermine that. But what I find bizzare is how the sky coverage is not making more of a fuss over this, they are making out like it was a poor performance from Lewis, in fact at one point they mentioned he was going through a dip, especially in qualifying lol, have they forgot about the last two races splitting the Ferraris. I don't believe it's anti Hamilton as they're often pro Hamilton it's just poor broadcasting, they overlook key details and make stories out of nothing to make up for their own incompetence. The best question d
Di Resta could think of asking Hamilton post race was if he was going to battle hard with Bottas from now on, it's like oh no Paul I'm going to let him pass me. It's a pointless question.

[Zarathustra]

‘Yes it was obvious car 5 false started and probably led to two other cars colliding’

Ohh my dear lord- the force is strong with this one..

[Restomaniac]

De Resta is still crying over Russia. His work colleagues are now laughing at him.

[Justthatek]

Did Hill really just say Mercedes drivers make silly mistakes like Ferrari's drivers wtf!

PDR still discrediting Mercedes

Sky really do chat $hit.

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[Shrieker]

Mercedes lol what a braindead move to pit Hamilton and get him stuck behind Vettel. Don't wanna screw Bottas over ? Tell Hamilton to let him past, and secure a 1-2. Fvcking idiotic.

[MtthsMlw]

Remember when 130R was scary?