Roman wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 09:49
The rules in case of the "VET jump start" are quite clear and simple:
FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations (Google 2019 FIA Formula One Sporting Regulations), Article 36.13 states:
[...]
Either of the penalties under Articles 38.3c) or d) will be imposed on any driver who is judged
to have :
a) Moved before the start signal is given, such judgement being made by an FIA approved
and supplied transponder fitted to each car,
[...]
Therefore, if the sensor didnt detect a movement it's not a jump start.
Honestly, I prefer such a measurement as opposed to human judgement as human judgement will always be flawed and this is an objective way to measure jumps starts.
If FIA now decides this rule needs a change or clarification then they can do so, but only for the remainder of the season, not for races that already happened. For the moment there is no room for any kind of conspiracy theories mentioned here by several users.
First of all, thanks for bringing up the actual regulations. I think that was necessary, given it does put things in perspective. First of all, this shows the stewards had no other choice than to free Vettel from any penalty. The sensor did not gave a jump start signal, so it was the only option really.
Second, this makes me wonder if the transponder worked correctly. As has been said, the sensor is there to take the human element out of it and to make a rational decision. However, camera footage clearly picked up movement before the red light. Either, the transponder did not work correctly, or it works in a different set of parameters than we assumed it to be.
Either case, this should be rectified. If it is a broken sensor, no biggie. Things break. If the discrepancy between camera footage and sensor pinging is due intended parameters, then I would say there need to be adjustments. Again, I fully think it is the right thing to do to base the decision on a sensor. But, to my intuition this is done more to pick up movement that is not visible on a camera. I can be wrong, but I don't think the reverse should be intended: a sensor not picking up movement that a camera was able to.
djos wrote: ↑14 Oct 2019, 10:14
Seriously guy's, 1 not quite jump start that actually penalized the driver involved does not make for a systemic problem!
This can be perfectly true, should this be down to a faulty sensor. I think it needs more investigation, and probably also a free pass on the stewards. Admittingly, I myself had put questions on the steward's decision on that, but the rules are actually very clear on that: judgement based on the transponder.
EDIT: Just read the FIA report. So they deem this within tolerable movement. Again, I feel this should be adjusted to no movement at all.
