2019 Brazilian Grand Prix - Interlagos, 15-17 November

[LM10]

I don't see where Merc and RB are getting those numbers. Ferrari would have to be losing massive amounts of time in the corners to be nearly a full second up on Mercedes in the straights with Bottas only .156 off the fastest time.

Meanwhile, Verstappen was quickest in S3, and even without the tow there, he would've been hundredths or thousandths off the best S3 time.

That said, Ferrari definitely still have a straightline advantage in Brazil.

Those numbers are weird indeed and can't be true. Ferrari must be horrendously slow in the corners to lose all the gained speed.

Perhaps it's sort of a data forecast? What I mean is, Ferrari and Red Bull are utilizing their GPS data from FP2, and taking into account fuel loads, PU settings, etc., they're extrapolating that come qualifying, Ferrari's straightline advantage will be "x" tenths.

That’s a possibility, you’re right. We will see in a few hours.

[Sevach]

So apparently Ferrari are running full downforce, but are losing nearly a second in the corners......

Theres no way they are gaining 7 tenths on the straights. If that were true then you would say at at least 4 tenths of that would be sector 3. but the timing sheets say otherwise.

conclusion: they are not running "full downforce".

And they are not 7 tenths up on the straights. Because the straights are S1 and S3. and the sector times tell a different story

Horner just can't resist implying "our chassis is awesome, hands down the best, we only lose through other means" even when he has a good relationship with his supplier.

[MtthsMlw]

Should be a great fight for Pole between Verstappen and Hamilton, Ferrari looking more at the second row, loosing a lot in S2.

[siskue2005]

Should be a great fight for Pole between Verstappen and Hamilton, Ferrari looking more at the second row, loosing a lot in S2.

More improtant is that they are not gaining those times back in the starights, which is what they did in sochi and other tracks where they dominated, interesting!

[MtthsMlw]

Fastest sectors:
S1
RB 17.558
Ferrari +0.109
Merc +0.183

S2
Merc 34.528
RB +0.199
Ferrari +0.432

S3
Ferrari 15.983
RB +0.039
Merc +0.067

[siskue2005]

Fastest sectors:
S1
RB 17.558
Ferrari +0.109
Merc +0.183

S2
Merc 34.528
RB +0.199
Ferrari +0.432

S3
Ferrari 15.983
RB +0.039
Merc +0.067

This shows that Ferrari might be running lower downforce to compensate for engine loss?
Coz even in singapore and suzuka they were mighty everywhere, that could be due to them running higher downforce to go fast in corners and use the magic mode to compensate for that in straights ?

But only after qualifying we can confirm anything, until then just speculations

[izzy]

Should be a great fight for Pole between Verstappen and Hamilton, Ferrari looking more at the second row, loosing a lot in S2.

it should be great shouldn't it. And each of them fastest in different sectors, and doing their tyre preparation and temperaure/pressure management differently. Plus the traffic is an issue on such a short track. I reckon Ferrari have more engine mode to turn up as well, i wouldn't count them out

[siskue2005]

Should be a great fight for Pole between Verstappen and Hamilton, Ferrari looking more at the second row, loosing a lot in S2.

it should be great shouldn't it. And each of them fastest in different sectors, and doing their tyre preparation and temperaure/pressure management differently. Plus the traffic is an issue on such a short track. I reckon Ferrari have more engine mode to turn up as well, i wouldn't count them out

And so does Honda and Merc

[Wass85]

Mercedes flattered by running lighter? They only did one hotlap whereas Verstappen and Vettel basically matched their fastest time on their second attempt.

[siskue2005]

Mercedes flattered by running lighter? They only did one hotlap whereas Verstappen and Vettel basically matched their fastest time on their second attempt.

Lewis did one fastest lap, but aborted the second one and came to pits and stopped in the garage and went out again, he did that one more time. So almost 7 laps he did without refuelling after he set the fastest lap.

Even ferrari were doing this, i dont know what was point to do it?

[izzy]

it should be great shouldn't it. And each of them fastest in different sectors, and doing their tyre preparation and temperaure/pressure management differently. Plus the traffic is an issue on such a short track. I reckon Ferrari have more engine mode to turn up as well, i wouldn't count them out

And so does Honda and Merc

Ferrari have more party mode, is the evidence i think, and they also have to use it more sparingly because it is more, doing more damage, and also because their reliability hasn't been that great. So far there's no sign the technical directives have made any difference

[Wass85]

Mercedes flattered by running lighter? They only did one hotlap whereas Verstappen and Vettel basically matched their fastest time on their second attempt.

Lewis did one fastest lap, but aborted the second one and came to pits and stopped in the garage and went out again, he did that one more time. So almost 7 laps he did without refuelling after he set the fastest lap.

Even ferrari were doing this, i dont know what was point to do it?

Did he set any good sector times on these laps after? Mercedes did look like they struggled most out of the top 3 teams to match their times after the initial fast lap.

[siskue2005]

Mercedes flattered by running lighter? They only did one hotlap whereas Verstappen and Vettel basically matched their fastest time on their second attempt.

Lewis did one fastest lap, but aborted the second one and came to pits and stopped in the garage and went out again, he did that one more time. So almost 7 laps he did without refuelling after he set the fastest lap.

Even ferrari were doing this, i dont know what was point to do it?

Did he set any good sector times on these laps after? Mercedes did look like they struggled most out of the top 3 teams to match their times after the initial fast lap.

Yes, his first sectors were just 0.075 sec off his first sector in his second fastest lap
And then he was caught out running wide in turn 4. Then again he set similar times in the first sector after that, but pulled to pits after that

Do you want me to post the sector times from f1 live timings app?

[siskue2005]

it should be great shouldn't it. And each of them fastest in different sectors, and doing their tyre preparation and temperaure/pressure management differently. Plus the traffic is an issue on such a short track. I reckon Ferrari have more engine mode to turn up as well, i wouldn't count them out

And so does Honda and Merc

Ferrari have more party mode, is the evidence i think, and they also have to use it more sparingly because it is more, doing more damage, and also because their reliability hasn't been that great. So far there's no sign the technical directives have made any difference

We can conclude that only after qualifying

[Bill_Kar]

I'm getting a bit of Texas vibes here.

Ferrari is losing a lot of time in S2, but pre - USA they would claw back. Let's see if they will this time.