Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
Well Max crying wolf could be a sign, those complaining about others cheating are usually the ones doing it as well. It happens like this in all other sports, boxing is a fine example of this.LM10 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:04Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
As for Ferrari, it’s not really conclusive. In the acceleration phases they still are the clear number ones.
Isn't what we saw today simply down to engine convergence as even Ric had awesome speed in some of the speedtraps ?LM10 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:04Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
As for Ferrari, it’s not really conclusive. In the acceleration phases they still are the clear number ones.
Vettel is confused as well:Wass85 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:11Well Max crying wolf could be a sign, those complaining about others cheating are usually the ones doing it as well. It happens like this in all other sports, boxing is a fine example of this.LM10 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:04Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
As for Ferrari, it’s not really conclusive. In the acceleration phases they still are the clear number ones.
“I’m a bit surprised with the speed Honda had down the straights, I don’t know where that came from," he said. "I think it’s funny a little bit. I don’t know how."
“I think we have been fast down the straights for the entire season starting for the first couple of races and we are still fast and they haven’t been, and now they are.”
Alluding to Red Bull’s recent rule query over fuel flow metering - which Verstappen had quipped might have been the reason for Ferrari's Austin performance dip - Vettel joked: “I don’t know, maybe they need to make an explanation.”
Ricciardo's Renault has much less downforce than the Redbull. It's a regular thing to see midfield teams right at the top of the speed traps.langedweil wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:16Isn't what we saw today simply down to engine convergence as even Ric had awesome speed in some of the speedtraps ?LM10 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:04Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
As for Ferrari, it’s not really conclusive. In the acceleration phases they still are the clear number ones.
My guess: Mexico, Spielberg and Interlagos, are the highest circuits on the calendar. The renault and Honda engines seem to handle that better than the Merc.
Charles Leclerc took the Red Bull on the straights just a tenth, the Mercedes two. The day before the delta was still seven or eight tenths.
But it isn,t suddenly. Honda has been diligently working at it. They even showed a graph of where they feel they stand. Quite accurate I think. Must remember this is also at 600 meter above sea level, it mitigates performance advantages. Also, when a new spec is introduced they increase the performance in small steps.Honda has done that for 2 years now. They are still morbid for name damage. They suffered so bad in the passed.LM10 wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:04Redbull has been pretty fast on the straights lately. All of a sudden the Honda PU seems to be even more powerful than the Mercedes. All eyes on Ferrari, but what’s at least as weird is Honda making such a huge jump and (in my opinion) overtaking the Mercedes powerwise.
As for Ferrari, it’s not really conclusive. In the acceleration phases they still are the clear number ones.
But weren't Ferrari wrecking Honda and Mercedes on the straights in Mexico?PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑17 Nov 2019, 01:53I dunno. I think the Honda has beenbgood in high altitude locations sincelast year. That may have something to do with it.