F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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I'm wondering if it will still be legal in 2021 and use by all teams, or simply banned because then it will be useless.

Anyway, nice work again... This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.

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Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
You know all of that after 1 1/2 day of testing? Next week most teams will come with new parts on the car.
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You forgot best drivers.

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Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
I'm wondering if it will still be legal in 2021 and use by all teams, or simply banned because then it will be useless.

Anyway, nice work again... This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
The rumor before the testing started was, Mercedes is bringing "A FEW" innovations, which were never seen before. We have seen the first one and the world has gone berserk. We still don't know the impact of adventurous rear suspension that James Allison has spoken about and probably there could be something else too.

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GPR-A wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:12
Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
I'm wondering if it will still be legal in 2021 and use by all teams, or simply banned because then it will be useless.

Anyway, nice work again... This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
The rumor before the testing started was, Mercedes is bringing "A FEW" innovations, which were never seen before. We have seen the first one and the world has gone berserk. We still don't know the impact of adventurous rear suspension that James Allison has spoken about and probably there could be something else too.
I wouldn’t say berserk.

I just think it’s nice to actually talk about new ideas instead of Team/Driver A is amazing......No Team/Driver A is worse than Team/Driver B. Like we normally have during testing/a season.

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Wouter wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:05
Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
You know all of that after 1 1/2 day of testing? Next week most teams will come with new parts on the car.
Hopefully other teams can compete. =D>

But I wouldn't bet against Mercedes, they are just far too good. :wtf:

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GPR-A wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:12
Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
I'm wondering if it will still be legal in 2021 and use by all teams, or simply banned because then it will be useless.

Anyway, nice work again... This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
The rumor before the testing started was, Mercedes is bringing "A FEW" innovations, which were never seen before. We have seen the first one and the world has gone berserk. We still don't know the impact of adventurous rear suspension that James Allison has spoken about and probably there could be something else too.
Well, to be fair, we don't know the impact of their DAS either. It's a visible thing and hence it stirs a lot of talk, but no idea what the quantitative gain is as of now.

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Wouter wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:05
Jambier wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:02
This car seems to have best aero, best engine, and now innovative solutions =D>

The only issue is that championship is over. again. And that Mercedes will win. again.
You know all of that after 1 1/2 day of testing? Next week most teams will come with new parts on the car.
I know, but I also know how it will end and who will be champion.

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Mercedes seem to have shut the doors and gone home early!

big change on the car, i can only suppose

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Difficult times in the sport for teams not named Mercedes. I'm on two minds on this; on the one hand it's just the very essence of F1 to innovate in this way, not cheating within the rules where you're not caught but true innovation. On the other hand the sport is at a level where there's not way in hell that a mid or back field team would be able to compete with the engineering resources of a global behemoth like Mercedes.

It's complicated.
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izzy wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:51
Mercedes seem to have shut the doors and gone home early!

big change on the car, i can only suppose
or run out of tyres

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TAG wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:54
Difficult times in the sport for teams not named Mercedes. I'm on two minds on this; on the one hand it's just the very essence of F1 to innovate in this way, not cheating within the rules where you're not caught but true innovation. On the other hand the sport is at a level where there's not way in hell that a mid or back field team would be able to compete with the engineering resources of a global behemoth like Mercedes.

It's complicated.
yes but in pretty much any sports event there are lots of competitors and only 1,2,3,4 real contenders for the win

and Ferrari are NOT out of it and nor is Max, hype is at 11 today. DAS is a marginal thing, it only needs a Mercedes engine to let go or something like that, and it'll all look different

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the EDGE wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 18:02
izzy wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 17:51
Mercedes seem to have shut the doors and gone home early!

big change on the car, i can only suppose
or run out of tyres
oh yes, quite possibly!

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izzy wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:09
LM10 wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 13:08
The longer I think about it the more I get the feeling that Mercedes might get through with that. If that's not specifically regulated then the argument will be that it's just another step forward of their POU solution from last year.

It looks really sophisticated so much so that initially you don't understand how that can be legal. But seems like this team, very unfortunately for me and many others, contains of geniuses being obsessed with innovating.
you are a very sporting tifoso :)

and yes Mercedes have a seriously hot suspension department atm don't they
Thanks, though, after 6 years of defeats it's not that easy to keep cool as I finally want Ferrari to win. :)
But I'm an optimistic person and it's still very early days. So let's wait and see how things pan out eventually.

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NathanOlder wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:33
DiogoBrand wrote:
20 Feb 2020, 15:08
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20 Feb 2020, 02:23


rrr. Because you can tell a lot from testing mate. It is actually very much representative for the majority of the teams for the most of the time.
That's why Ferrari destroyed Mercedes last year after being faster all throughout winter testing.
Did they really destroy Merc though ? Maybe the first test yes. And then the second test was Mercedes first test with the new car. Fastest laps last year were almost identical. Ferrari were I think 0.003 faster than Mercedes.
Exactly. And the cars' pace were very very similar too for the season. Ferrari just blew it by mistakes and Ham+Merc was just really good.

Anyhow.. DAS looks very innovative indeed. I hope it stays so we can have another detail to discuss :D