F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

[Wass85]

If that video is synchronised correctly then Hamilton was ahead going in to turn 13 before he made a mistake.

[NathanOlder]

Or just safe mileage. Chassis data collection on the works team, engine data collection from customer teams.

Safe Mileage that cost them a PU failure though.

Or excuse to run a different spec power unit? Why announce to the competition that you're testing different power units? Have we seen the 2020 Ferrari power unit yet? Do we know if they're still using the same layout? Remember the teething issues Honda had when they made the switch to split turbo? Took them a while? How fast do you suppose Ferrari could make the switch?

So waste hours of precious testing time changing a PU, when they could just change it over night, behind closed doors and no one would be any the wiser..... yeah ok.

[Juzh]

If that video is synchronised correctly then Hamilton was ahead going in to turn 13 before he made a mistake.

Video stops for 2 seconds at the start/finish line exactly for this reason, that is to demonstrate synchronicity between both laps.

Or maybe he was running less downforce, wasn't Lewis less than a tenth off in the first sector?

Or that, yes.

[Wass85]

If that video is synchronised correctly then Hamilton was ahead going in to turn 13 before he made a mistake.

Video stops for 2 seconds at the start/finish line exactly for this reason, that is to demonstrate synchronicity between both laps.

Or maybe he was running less downforce, wasn't Lewis less than a tenth off in the first sector?

Or that, yes.

If that's right then Lewis is actually ahead going in to turn 13, he is at times way back and then closes the gap up at different points of the circuit.

[yelistener]

Lewis was actually behind Bottas into T11. His T12 was better than Bottas and that made the difference. T12 is such a special, demanding, and quite representing corner. Ferrari was terrible in T12 last year.

[jumpingfish]

It was mentioned here earlier but how formula1.com gave this 0.38s advantage for SF1000 on slow speed corners? Did anybody else see that from onboards or somewhere else?



Not only Federico Albano from formulapassion.it points that W11 is faster on low speed corners than W10, but Ferrari found something in area where they were weaker in 2019?

[lio007]

If anybody is interested in timing data from the first week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... ta_sectors

[Juzh]

It was mentioned here earlier but how formula1.com gave this 0.38s advantage for SF1000 on slow speed corners? Did anybody else see that from onboards or somewhere else?

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.png

I've never taken those graphs from f1.com seriously. On one hand you'd think they must be true and relevant since they come from official source, but then when you look at what's really happening on track they become meaningless fast. Case in point the ferrari somehow being 0.4s. faster in slow corners but fail to mention In what context, which corner, when or how this was calculated/observed.

[Wass85]

Lewis was actually behind Bottas into T11. His T12 was better than Bottas and that made the difference. T12 is such a special, demanding, and quite representing corner. Ferrari was terrible in T12 last year.

If you watch the lap he is way behind at certain points of the circuit throughout the lap and then catches Bottas and sometimes overtakes him. If you pause just before they get in to 13 he is ahead.

[jumpingfish]

It was mentioned here earlier but how formula1.com gave this 0.38s advantage for SF1000 on slow speed corners? Did anybody else see that from onboards or somewhere else?

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.png

I've never taken those graphs from f1.com seriously. On one hand you'd think they must be true and relevant since they come from official source, but then when you look at what's really happening on track they become meaningless fast. Case in point the ferrari somehow being 0.4s. faster in slow corners but fail to mention In what context, which corner, when or how this was calculated/observed.

I agree, that's why I was surprised and asked where it could come from, because people saw Bottas improve, but not Ferrari

[Wass85]

How do you post pics on here off a mobile?

[siveiro]

If anybody is interested in timing data from the first week:
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... ta_sectors

Thanx!

I've plotted all this data and looked at the quickest sector times of the first week (See list below)
On the left tabel i found a 3 sectortime of Rainkonen of 25,133. Then the quickest laptime could be 1:14:984.
This doesn't seem correct, so i did a filter on only the OK times (see right tabel). Bottas was the quickest on all sectors. Remarkable is that Leclerc was very good in sandbagging compared to Vettel and Ocon was third quickest.
If someone of you what some anwsers out of this data let me know.

Test times tell much more than other sometimes say. Just read this article: https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/en/news/2 ... e]learned/

Min van s1 Min van s2 Min van s3 Min van s1 Min van s2 Min van s3
ALB 21,937 28,955 26,743 77,635 ALB 21,937 28,955 26,743 77,635
BOT 21,731 28,12 25,807 75,658 BOT 21,731 28,12 25,807 75,658
GAS 21,857 28,791 26,825 77,473 GAS 21,857 28,791 26,825 77,473
GIO 21,897 28,577 26,974 77,448 GIO 21,897 28,577 26,974 77,448
GRO 22,22 29,159 26,883 78,262 GRO 22,22 29,159 26,883 78,262
HAM 21,853 28,164 26,21 76,227 HAM 21,853 28,164 26,21 76,227
KVY 21,841 28,758 26,738 77,337 KVY 21,841 28,758 26,738 77,337
LAT 22,038 29,298 27,222 78,558 LAT 22,038 29,298 27,222 78,558
LEC 22,448 29,104 26,783 78,335 LEC 22,448 29,104 26,783 78,335
MAG 22,432 29,585 27,108 79,125 MAG 22,432 29,585 27,108 79,125
NOR 22,061 29,02 27,061 78,142 NOR 22,061 29,02 27,061 78,142
OCO 21,855 28,574 26,415 76,844 OCO 21,855 28,574 26,415 76,844
PER 21,848 28,647 26,686 77,181 PER 21,848 28,647 26,686 77,181
RAI 21,8 28,814 25,133 75,747 RAI 21,8 28,814 26,477 77,091
RIC 21,892 28,564 26,562 77,018 RIC 21,892 28,564 26,562 77,018
RUS 21,985 29,004 26,984 77,973 RUS 21,985 29,004 26,984 77,973
SAI 22,087 28,936 26,819 77,842 SAI 22,087 28,936 26,819 77,842
STR 21,795 28,699 26,844 77,338 STR 21,795 28,699 26,844 77,338
VER 22,032 28,8 26,526 77,358 VER 22,032 28,8 26,526 77,358
VET 22,245 28,933 26,623 77,801 VET 22,245 28,933 26,623 77,801

Eindtotaal 21,731 28,12 25,807
Eindtotaal 21,731 28,12 25,133 74,984

1:14:984 1:15:658

Sorry, can't plot a normal .xls table in here

[CriXus]

The Race | The First Sign of How Much Ferrari’s Holding Back

[MtthsMlw]

How do you post pics on here off a mobile?

Essentially like you would from a desktop. Upload them to imgur for example.

[MtthsMlw]

The Race | The First Sign of How Much Ferrari’s Holding Back

tl:dr
Comparison of the 16-lap race sim stint.
- after 16 laps HAM is 1s ahead of VET who is 9s clear of VER
- HAM did run on Thursday, VET and VER on Friday
- Ferrari running low engine modes in 'quali sims'
- Ferrari with better tyre deg compared to Merc

Ofc it's not clear how much better the track was on Friday and if Vettel really started his run on a full tank.

The Ferrari’s best single lap of the test was a 1m17.5s. If we assume that to have been set with a qualifying-level of fuel (in reality it would probably be carrying at least 30kg for the purposes of testing), then the 4.3s difference between that and the 1m 21.78s Vettel begins the stint with represents over 100kg.