F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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Edit-Derp.

[DChemTech]

It was mentioned here earlier but how formula1.com gave this 0.38s advantage for SF1000 on slow speed corners? Did anybody else see that from onboards or somewhere else?

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.png

Not only Federico Albano from formulapassion.it points that W11 is faster on low speed corners than W10, but Ferrari found something in area where they were weaker in 2019?

https://www.formulapassion.it/wp-conten ... test_1.jpg

I don't suppose anyone else noticed that Mercedes is conspicuously missing from this chart? Might have something to do with it...

Mercedes is not missing; they are the baseline. The bars represent estimated performance compared to mercedes.

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Yea I just double checked that and edited my post, yikes. Second cup it is.

[GPR-A]

@F1debrief has posted new set of Race Sim data for Hamilton and Verstappen. On an average, W11 is over 4 tenths faster through both Sector 1 and Sector 3 than RB16. Whereas RB16, on an average, is a tenth and half faster than W11 in Sector 1.

[f1jcw]

The Race | The First Sign of How Much Ferrari’s Holding Back

tl:dr
Comparison of the 16-lap race sim stint.
- after 16 laps HAM is 1s ahead of VET who is 9s clear of VER
- HAM did run on Thursday, VET and VER on Friday
- Ferrari running low engine modes in 'quali sims'
- Ferrari with better tyre deg compared to Merc

Ofc it's not clear how much better the track was on Friday and if Vettel really started his run on a full tank.

The Ferrari’s best single lap of the test was a 1m17.5s. If we assume that to have been set with a qualifying-level of fuel (in reality it would probably be carrying at least 30kg for the purposes of testing), then the 4.3s difference between that and the 1m 21.78s Vettel begins the stint with represents over 100kg.

Strange
When all other reports so far have being
Mercedes good with tyre deg
Ferrari terrible with tyre deg

[Unf]

And this is why every testing-based reviews are totally worthless. This is the clear evident that we know nothing and will know nothing until Melbourne's Q3.

[Wass85]

And this is why every testing-based reviews are totally worthless. This is the clear evident that we know nothing and will know nothing until Melbourne's Q3.

Will we actually know anything in Melbourne as well? Cars can put in an odd performance around that circuit. I guess it's part of the title campaign so it does matter just as much as any race.

[godlameroso]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

[CriXus]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

Mercs have another 01:00 in hand.

[the EDGE]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

After a years development the car they had in Abu Dhabi probably could have done that, this years Spanish pole will sub 1:14.5

[godlameroso]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

Mercs have another 01:00 in hand.

They could probably do a 14.5 with the C5 tire, but could they do that with the C3 tire?

[godlameroso]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

After a years development the car they had in Abu Dhabi probably could have done that, this years Spanish pole will sub 1:14.5

Doubt it. Their 2019 Abu Dhabi car barely qualified faster than it did in 2018 1.34.779(2019) vs 1.34.794(2018). It's probably not a representative circuit. 15.4 last year, we know they claim they're .3 faster from the engine + .3 from the chassis? Best case scenario is 14.8. I think they'll be hard pressed to break into the 14's. Red Bull will be within .2 of Mercedes.

[etusch]

@F1debrief has posted new set of Race Sim data for Hamilton and Verstappen. On an average, W11 is over 4 tenths faster through both Sector 1 and Sector 3 than RB16. Whereas RB16, on an average, is a tenth and half faster than W11 in Sector 1.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERZFbCrXkAA ... ame=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERY3CutX0AA ... ame=medium

Am I get it wrong or is there a sector 1 confusion?

[the EDGE]

Mercedes has another .6 to .7 if they turned the engine up. So I have their car capable of 14.9-15.1 if they let loose. RB16 15.1-15.3, Ferrari 15.3, RP 15.9, MCL35 16.1-16.2

After a years development the car they had in Abu Dhabi probably could have done that, this years Spanish pole will sub 1:14.5

Doubt it. Their 2019 Abu Dhabi car barely qualified faster than it did in 2018 1.34.779(2019) vs 1.34.794(2018). It's probably not a representative circuit. 15.4 last year, we know they claim they're .3 faster from the engine + .3 from the chassis? Best case scenario is 14.8. I think they'll be hard pressed to break into the 14's. Red Bull will be within .2 of Mercedes.

Yes but we’re not talking about Abu Dhabi where different track characteristics came into play, we’re talking Barcelona where they were quicker than the year before

1.15.4 last year -0.5 for the 2019 season development -0.5 for winter development means this years pole will be 1.14.4 at worst

Personally I think quicker 1.14.0 to 1.14.2

[izzy]

@F1debrief has posted new set of Race Sim data for Hamilton and Verstappen. On an average, W11 is over 4 tenths faster through both Sector 1 and Sector 3 than RB16. Whereas RB16, on an average, is a tenth and half faster than W11 in Sector 1.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERZFbCrXkAA ... ame=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERY3CutX0AA ... ame=medium

Am I get it wrong or is there a sector 1 confusion?

yes it should be "both Sector 2 and Sector 3" shouldn't it