F1 2020 Pre-Season Testing Thread

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Shamefully copied some impressions from Ben Anderson off the Autosport ticker:

Ben Anderson wrote:"I spent the best part of an hour in the early stages of Wednesday's afternoon session watching trackside at the high-speed esses of Turns 7 and 8.

"Obviously this is only a brief snapshot, and it's difficult to compare like for like based on differing test programmes between teams, but nevertheless here are my first impressions of F1 2020, close-up.

"The Red Bull-Honda was arguably the standout car. Max Verstappen was braking insanely late for this section, noticeably later even than Valtteri Bottas in the Mercedes, and could pick up the throttle earlier than anyone else at the apex of 7. The most impressive thing was the car seemingly gave Max absolutely no trouble, lap after lap it looked like it was on rails. However, it also looked as though it was arriving at reduced speed compared to the other top cars, so perhaps is running in a detuned state engine-wise for now, which would also help explain why he was so late on the brakes and early back on the throttle."
Ben Anderson wrote:"The Mercedes looked predictably impressive, not quite as obviously painted to the road as the RB16 but still very strong. It looked ever so slightly lazy mid-corner, but was most likely running fat with fuel. Certainly there is a feeling elsewhere in the paddock that the W11 is still the car to beat, and it's hard to argue with that based on last week's lap times, even if I didn't seen the best of it today."
Ben Anderson wrote:"I feel the Ferrari is slightly behind the other two at this stage. The car looks decent enough on entry but then appears to lose grip mid-corner. I've heard there was a concern last week from Sebastian Vettel about the Ferrari having too much understeer and that tallies with my visual impression. Leclerc was having to use much more of the road on the exit of 7, thus tightening his approach to 8, because the car just would not fully comply as he re-applied the power mid-corner."
Ben Anderson wrote:"Of the rest, I saw a decent amount of the McLaren, Racing Point and Haas. I would put McLaren marginally ahead of Racing Point based on what I saw. Lance Stroll was chasing Lando Norris around for several laps and Norris gradually edged away. He was able to carry a bit more speed into Turn 7 without the car biting him, whereas Stroll had a massive rear slide while trying to re-apply power mid-corner on one lap so had to rein it in thereafter.

"The McLaren looks Red Bull-esque in terms of balance but without the same level of overall grip. The Racing Point clearly inspires confidence on entry, but can't quite hold on to the same degree as the McLaren mid-corner."
Ben Anderson wrote:"The Haas looked difficult to drive - reasonably fast, but Romain Grosjean always needed the full width of the circuit to navigate this section on his flying laps and had a few big moments as the car refused to comply with his demands. It looks as though it maybe has a similar problem to the Ferrari in terms of front end grip, but to a greater extreme. Grosjean certainly found it difficult to repeat his ideal racing line consistently."
Ben Anderson wrote:"I also got some brief impressions of the AlphaTauri, Alfa Romeo and Williams. The AlphaTauri, as you might expect, looks pretty much like a low-resolution Red Bull - well balanced but not blessed with high overall levels of downforce; Kimi Raikkonen looked ill at ease with the front end response of the Alfa initially and disappeared into the pits, so some work was needed to dial that car in for him; the Williams was noticeably slower than the rest entering this section, but in fairness that was very early into George Russell's run programme so there may be more in that car I haven't seen yet. "
No comments on the Renault, as they weren't running when he was trackside.

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JPBD1990 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 14:10
https://imgur.com/gallery/AnCyivd

Does anyone know the best sector 3 time of the first week?
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TNTHead wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:51
Marti_EF3 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:34
Do you see something with the live?? Or do the cars appear too much fast to know who is who?

If not, tomorrow I will be on S3 which hopefully things should be more viewer friendly...

I'm going again with the live if helps something

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Thanks for sharing. But, no the cars are not easily distinguished
Sorry, tomorrow hope will be better on S3

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:33
TNTHead wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:51
Marti_EF3 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:34
Do you see something with the live?? Or do the cars appear too much fast to know who is who?

If not, tomorrow I will be on S3 which hopefully things should be more viewer friendly...

I'm going again with the live if helps something

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Thanks for sharing. But, no the cars are not easily distinguished
Sorry, tomorrow hope will be better on S3
No need to say sorry Marti!! It's been nice that you put all that effort into it !!

It is nice to have three turns in the picture, but then the cars become too small and not recognizable.
Better one corner in the picture, then the cars become bigger and more recognizable.
Watch out with backlight, because then the cars will look more black.
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GPR-A wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:45
mkay wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 18:27
GPR-A wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 18:23
This season is done. Merc quite far ahead and RBR is distant second. Ferrari is almost a no show. Alpha, Alfa, Haas and Renault are all pissed off with the Mercedes W10 in the Pink. Good show from Williams and McLaren so far.
Ferrari and RBR to introduce a B-spec car next week. We're not even close to being done.
Have we seen the B-spec cars yet?
Well for now nothing interesting, and only 2 days left

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Lap counts so far (first test + today)
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Esteban Ocon RS20

RaceSim

1st Stint
57.011 (C2)
23.964
24.492
24.384
24.251
24.362
24.371
24.222
24.220
24.960
24.561
24.680
24.864
24.404
24.520
24.303
24.539
24.613
24.831
24.808
24.799
box

2nd Stint
52.409 (C3)
22.866
23.267
22.848
22.973
23.039
23.103
23.024
23.365
23.223
23.065
22.891
22.927
23.164
23.152
23.372
23.439
23.167
23.252
23.208
22.821
box

3rd Stint
50.401 (C2)
21.542
22.105
21.798
21.770
21.884
22.037
22.031
21.942
22.001
22.064
21.939
22.501
22.359
22.619
22.111
22.598
RED FLAG - in

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Jambier wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 19:18
GPR-A wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:45
mkay wrote:
19 Feb 2020, 18:27


Ferrari and RBR to introduce a B-spec car next week. We're not even close to being done.
Have we seen the B-spec cars yet?
Well for now nothing interesting, and only 2 days left
This has been an awfully quiet winter, nothing striking has come out from any garage, a little FW here or there...

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snowy wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 19:28
Esteban Ocon RS20

RaceSim
...
that's not especially quick :sick:

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Williams has already been forced to move onto its third engine of pre-season testing after a string of issues with the Mercedes power unit.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/will ... s/4697071/

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Marti_EF3 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:33
TNTHead wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:51
Marti_EF3 wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 17:34
Do you see something with the live?? Or do the cars appear too much fast to know who is who?

If not, tomorrow I will be on S3 which hopefully things should be more viewer friendly...

I'm going again with the live if helps something

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Thanks for sharing. But, no the cars are not easily distinguished
Sorry, tomorrow hope will be better on S3
It was not your fault Marti so no need to apologize, I watched anyway and gained some knowledge from the sounds, how they approached and took the corner etc.
If i looked carefully I could tell some cars, and then the noise and the way they were driven connected the dots :wink:

It was just a poor time of day with the lighting at that corner I reckon.

Keep up the fantastic work mate, can't wait to see your films from some of the other corners =D>

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Phil wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 18:17
Shamefully copied some impressions from Ben Anderson off the Autosport ticker:

Ben Anderson wrote:"I spent the best part of an hour in the early stages of Wednesday's afternoon session watching trackside at the high-speed esses of Turns 7 and 8.

"Obviously this is only a brief snapshot, and it's difficult to compare like for like based on differing test programmes between teams, but nevertheless here are my first impressions of F1 2020, close-up.

"The Red Bull-Honda was arguably the standout car. Max Verstappen was braking insanely late for this section, noticeably later even than Valtteri Bottas in the Mercedes, and could pick up the throttle earlier than anyone else at the apex of 7. The most impressive thing was the car seemingly gave Max absolutely no trouble, lap after lap it looked like it was on rails. However, it also looked as though it was arriving at reduced speed compared to the other top cars, so perhaps is running in a detuned state engine-wise for now, which would also help explain why he was so late on the brakes and early back on the throttle."
Ben Anderson wrote:"The Mercedes looked predictably impressive, not quite as obviously painted to the road as the RB16 but still very strong. It looked ever so slightly lazy mid-corner, but was most likely running fat with fuel. Certainly there is a feeling elsewhere in the paddock that the W11 is still the car to beat, and it's hard to argue with that based on last week's lap times, even if I didn't seen the best of it today."
Ben Anderson wrote:"I feel the Ferrari is slightly behind the other two at this stage. The car looks decent enough on entry but then appears to lose grip mid-corner. I've heard there was a concern last week from Sebastian Vettel about the Ferrari having too much understeer and that tallies with my visual impression. Leclerc was having to use much more of the road on the exit of 7, thus tightening his approach to 8, because the car just would not fully comply as he re-applied the power mid-corner."
Ben Anderson wrote:"Of the rest, I saw a decent amount of the McLaren, Racing Point and Haas. I would put McLaren marginally ahead of Racing Point based on what I saw. Lance Stroll was chasing Lando Norris around for several laps and Norris gradually edged away. He was able to carry a bit more speed into Turn 7 without the car biting him, whereas Stroll had a massive rear slide while trying to re-apply power mid-corner on one lap so had to rein it in thereafter.

"The McLaren looks Red Bull-esque in terms of balance but without the same level of overall grip. The Racing Point clearly inspires confidence on entry, but can't quite hold on to the same degree as the McLaren mid-corner."
Ben Anderson wrote:"The Haas looked difficult to drive - reasonably fast, but Romain Grosjean always needed the full width of the circuit to navigate this section on his flying laps and had a few big moments as the car refused to comply with his demands. It looks as though it maybe has a similar problem to the Ferrari in terms of front end grip, but to a greater extreme. Grosjean certainly found it difficult to repeat his ideal racing line consistently."
Ben Anderson wrote:"I also got some brief impressions of the AlphaTauri, Alfa Romeo and Williams. The AlphaTauri, as you might expect, looks pretty much like a low-resolution Red Bull - well balanced but not blessed with high overall levels of downforce; Kimi Raikkonen looked ill at ease with the front end response of the Alfa initially and disappeared into the pits, so some work was needed to dial that car in for him; the Williams was noticeably slower than the rest entering this section, but in fairness that was very early into George Russell's run programme so there may be more in that car I haven't seen yet. "
No comments on the Renault, as they weren't running when he was trackside.

FYI.
Thanks.

Only big problem I have with Anderson is that he seems to have a sense of picking exactly the wrong horse every year. If Ferrari and Red Bull would have gotten the best car every time he pronounced so we wouldn't be fearing the 7th year of sustained Mercedes dominance.
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Hey guys, I am looking for best sector times per driver for each day of testing last week, and also a place I can find these in the future so I don't have to ask this question again. Sorry if this has already been posted, but I have been searching for hours...

I saw this screen shot of today's data, though I don't know what app it is:

https://imgur.com/gallery/AnCyivd

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xtrmayo wrote:
26 Feb 2020, 22:34
Hey guys, I am looking for best sector times per driver for each day of testing last week, and also a place I can find these in the future so I don't have to ask this question again. Sorry if this has already been posted, but I have been searching for hours...

I saw this screen shot of today's data, though I don't know what app it is:

https://imgur.com/gallery/AnCyivd
That's from the offical F1 App, you need to pay for it though. With F1 TV Access you can get live timing and some other stuff.