COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[NL_Fer]

Dutch PM Rutte just admitted the authorities are choosing for herd immunity.

why are they doing this? hell of gamble if true.

Because a full lockdown will still take months to over a year. And no guarantee that the virus will not return, if the lock will be removed. International transit, could bring the virus to this country, from other parts of the world again.

They will do their best to control the spread and adjust the measures if needed.

[Just_a_fan]

Here most of the cases are coming from the UK. They wised up and banned UK flights since last week.

There is a cruise full of UK folks with quite a few are infected. So you can imagine that the reports from the UK have a huuuuge time lag.

London is the so-called centre of the world. Its obvious travel to and from there has to be tightly controlled. I am shocked authorities have responded so late.

The cases didn't come from the UK, they came through the UK. The UK has a major hub airport - Heathrow - so people "coming from the UK" haven't been mixing in the UK. They land, transfer, take off.

Stop blaming the UK - if the UK was the European source of the virus, Italy, France, Spain wouldn't have much higher cases numbers. A clue - Schengen.

[Just_a_fan]

Your people have come to their senses, took too damn long to make up their minds:

Boris Johnson plunged Britain into lockdown today - urging everyone in the country to stop all 'non-essential' contact with others.

The PM warned that the coronavirus was now in a phase of rapid spread across the UK, and it was time to take radical action to stop the NHS being swamped.

Anyone in a household where someone has been showing symptoms should isolate, he said. And the rest of Britain should avoid all contact that was not necessary - with restaurants, bars and cinemas and travel off limits, and a ban on large gatherings.

At a press conference in Downing Street, Mr Johnson said: 'Now is the time for everyone to stop non-essential contact with others.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sting.html

Ignore the Daily Mail. They are a disreputable rag.

The UK isn't being locked down. The PM has asked people to behave in a particular way. That is not a lock down. Not by a long shot.

[mmred]

Here most of the cases are coming from the UK. They wised up and banned UK flights since last week.

There is a cruise full of UK folks with quite a few are infected. So you can imagine that the reports from the UK have a huuuuge time lag.

London is the so-called centre of the world. Its obvious travel to and from there has to be tightly controlled. I am shocked authorities have responded so late.

The cases didn't come from the UK, they came through the UK. The UK has a major hub airport - Heathrow - so people "coming from the UK" haven't been mixing in the UK. They land, transfer, take off.

Stop blaming the UK - if the UK was the European source of the virus, Italy, France, Spain wouldn't have much higher cases numbers. A clue - Schengen.

Every case came from china. But nobody Is responsabile for that

Government are Just responsabile for how they moderate, if they moderate, the pandemic

In china It worked. But they have martial law.

Singapore used trackimg devices to identify the infects and their contacts. High tech but a bit pretentious

Italian different approach, a voluntary lockdown without militari forces Is starting already to give result but It s too Early, Just 3 consecutive days without a rise in numbers of Daily infects

Every other country Is coping Italy approach.

Uk approach Is not even an approach. You Will get isolated from other countries soon of you don't do your homework. So in order to protect the economy you lo end with a bigger loss than others

[Just_a_fan]

For those bashing the UK's approach etc., just remember we're an island nation. Easy to isolate us if we get it wrong. If we get it right, you all can benefit from the experience.

Win win.

[Titchener]

For those bashing the UK's approach etc., just remember we're an island nation. Easy to isolate us if we get it wrong. If we get it right, you all can benefit from the experience.

Win win.

[PlatinumZealot]

Here most of the cases are coming from the UK. They wised up and banned UK flights since last week.

There is a cruise full of UK folks with quite a few are infected. So you can imagine that the reports from the UK have a huuuuge time lag.

London is the so-called centre of the world. Its obvious travel to and from there has to be tightly controlled. I am shocked authorities have responded so late.

The cases didn't come from the UK, they came through the UK. The UK has a major hub airport - Heathrow - so people "coming from the UK" haven't been mixing in the UK. They land, transfer, take off.

Stop blaming the UK - if the UK was the European source of the virus, Italy, France, Spain wouldn't have much higher cases numbers. A clue - Schengen.

You are the one saying UK is the "source" of the virus in Europe! Not me!

The source or which European country has the most cases is neither here nor there to me. The spread within and from the UK was gravely underestimated was my point.

Why are you so defensive though?

[Brake Horse Power]

Dutch PM Rutte just admitted the authorities are choosing for herd immunity.

Yep, seems like the most sensible thing to do at this point. There is no stopping of it anyways.

[Big Tea]

Dutch PM Rutte just admitted the authorities are choosing for herd immunity.

Yep, seems like the most sensible thing to do at this point. There is no stopping of it anyways.

To pass stringent rules, you have to be prepared to enforce them. If you are not prepared for heavy handed implementation there is no point announcing them. Asking people to do this and not that or telling them are two different things. Do you have police walk up anyone in the street and ask what they are doing there? and if they have no good reason, what then?.

[mmred]

Dutch PM Rutte just admitted the authorities are choosing for herd immunity.

Yep, seems like the most sensible thing to do at this point. There is no stopping of it anyways.

To pass stringent rules, you have to be prepared to enforce them. If you are not prepared for heavy handed implementation there is no point announcing them. Asking people to do this and not that or telling them are two different things. Do you have police walk up anyone in the street and ask what they are doing there? and if they have no good reason, what then?.

Your Logic Is Opposing anarchy to policies in the usual useless false dichotomy

There are enforced laws but also Civic duties. There Is jail but also sense of community pushing us at home in italy

[Jolle]

Yep, seems like the most sensible thing to do at this point. There is no stopping of it anyways.

To pass stringent rules, you have to be prepared to enforce them. If you are not prepared for heavy handed implementation there is no point announcing them. Asking people to do this and not that or telling them are two different things. Do you have police walk up anyone in the street and ask what they are doing there? and if they have no good reason, what then?.

Your Logic Is Opposing anarchy to policies in the usual useless false dichotomy

There are enforced laws but also Civic duties. There Is jail but also sense of community pushing us at home in italy

Plus, the dutch can't obey strict rules... we don't have the same kind of relationship with the law and their enforces as countries like France, Spain or Italy. Whenever you do something and get caught, there is room for debate Next to that we have lots of rules that are not enforces, like drugs laws (coffeeshops are actually illegal) and lots of things surrounding prostitution. Getting a simple ticket like cycling on the curb, takes at least half an hour.....

[3jawchuck]

To pass stringent rules, you have to be prepared to enforce them. If you are not prepared for heavy handed implementation there is no point announcing them. Asking people to do this and not that or telling them are two different things. Do you have police walk up anyone in the street and ask what they are doing there? and if they have no good reason, what then?.

Your Logic Is Opposing anarchy to policies in the usual useless false dichotomy
There are enforced laws but also Civic duties. There Is jail but also sense of community pushing us at home in italy

Plus, the dutch can't obey strict rules... we don't have the same kind of relationship with the law and their enforces as countries like France, Spain or Italy. Whenever you do something and get caught, there is room for debate Next to that we have lots of rules that are not enforces, like drugs laws (coffeeshops are actually illegal) and lots of things surrounding prostitution. Getting a simple ticket like cycling on the curb, takes at least half an hour.....

Brits can be similar. A large number are not very good at dealing with authority and many have some level of disdain for said authority.

[strad]

Governor here is going to place us on a semi lockdown. Only allowed out of the house to get food or meds.

[mmred]

Governor here is going to place us on a semi lockdown. Only allowed out of the house to get food or meds.

[e30ernest]

If this turns out to be true, then the herd immunity strategy might not work:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... 1846af5c0f