Even when his car was the fastest he did not win(or maximize points intake).Ringleheim wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:10I agree Verstappen won't be champion, but not because he needs to "learn "something.
It will be because his car isn't fastest, which is almost always why a given driver doesn't win a race or championship.
With some notable exceptions of course.
And yet, only one crash DNF, third in the championship, three wins and beating both Ferrari’s (and having Leclerc’s number).ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:26Even when his car was the fastest he did not win(or maximize points intake).Ringleheim wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:10I agree Verstappen won't be champion, but not because he needs to "learn "something.
It will be because his car isn't fastest, which is almost always why a given driver doesn't win a race or championship.
With some notable exceptions of course.
The speed of his car relative to his competitors is not his greatest weakness. His problem is that he causes too many collisions, lucky for him he is rarely penalized as he should be. In 2019 he caused at least 10 collisions, and that was supposed to be his "clean" year.
Crashed into SAI in Bahrain
Crashed into BOT in Monaco
Crashed into HAM in Monaco
Crashed into LEC in Austria
Touched LEC at Silverstone
Crashed into Kimi in Spa, TWICE!
Crashed into someone at Monza T1
Crashed into HAM in Mexico
Crashed into BOT in Mexico
Crashed into MAG in Mexico
Verstappen will end up like Vettel, coddled by his team, but never corrected for his faults. Maybe he'll get a dominant car like Vettel did and win a couple championships, but he won't fix his greatest weakness until he is held accountable for it.
Having LEC'S number? I beg to differ, LEC clearly outdrove VER in Silverstone and was doing so again in Austria until VER crashed into him putting him off track which clearly deserved a penalty. I guess on track racecraft skills no longer matter in the new crashem bashem Formula destruction derby.
As you noted - Alonso's both championships were won in the second fastest car.Ringleheim wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:10I agree Verstappen won't be champion, but not because he needs to "learn "something.
It will be because his car isn't fastest, which is almost always why a given driver doesn't win a race or championship.
With some notable exceptions of course.
ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:26Even when his car was the fastest he did not win(or maximize points intake).Ringleheim wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:10I agree Verstappen won't be champion, but not because he needs to "learn "something.
It will be because his car isn't fastest, which is almost always why a given driver doesn't win a race or championship.
With some notable exceptions of course.
The speed of his car relative to his competitors is not his greatest weakness. His problem is that he causes too many collisions, lucky for him he is rarely penalized as he should be. In 2019 he caused at least 10 collisions, and that was supposed to be his "clean" year.
Crashed into SAI in Bahrain
Crashed into BOT in Monaco
Crashed into HAM in Monaco
Crashed into LEC in Austria
Touched LEC at Silverstone
Crashed into Kimi in Spa, TWICE!
Crashed into someone at Monza T1
Crashed into HAM in Mexico
Crashed into BOT in Mexico
Crashed into MAG in Mexico
Verstappen will end up like Vettel, coddled by his team, but never corrected for his faults. Maybe he'll get a dominant car like Vettel did and win a couple championships, but he won't fix his greatest weakness until he is held accountable for it.
Not really, +/- 40+ extra illegal bhp did pass him eventually. One could say that became painfully visible @COTA.
Hahaha, he was hunted down like a bathtub rubberduck mate .. with those 40+ extra bhp he couldn't beat the DRS in the end. LEC simply lost the right to that corner as he didn't have the apex... and was doing so again in Austria until VER crashed into him putting him off track which clearly deserved a penalty.
langedweil wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 06:24Not really, +/- 40+ extra illegal bhp did pass him eventually. One could say that became painfully visible @COTA.
Hahaha, he was hunted down like a bathtub rubberduck mate .. with those 40+ extra bhp he couldn't beat the DRS in the end. LEC simply lost the right to that corner as he didn't have the apex... and was doing so again in Austria until VER crashed into him putting him off track which clearly deserved a penalty.
It did not deserve any penalty, as the stewards decided wisely ..
It's racing, not millenial-esque entitlement ..
Er, Alonso was massively helped by the change in tyre rules that prevented tyre changes during the race. The Michelin was a much better tyre in that regard. Bridgestone had spent a number of seasons making tyres for Ferrari based on a "drive them hard for a sprint, change for new tyres, drive them hard for a sprint" approach. They couldn't do that in 2005 and the Ferrari/Bridgestone combination struggled for pace as a result. Alonso and Kimi benefitted. Alonso also benefitted from Kimi's McLaren being less reliable.rohit.d.agarwal wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 02:10As you noted - Alonso's both championships were won in the second fastest car.Ringleheim wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 21:10I agree Verstappen won't be champion, but not because he needs to "learn "something.
It will be because his car isn't fastest, which is almost always why a given driver doesn't win a race or championship.
With some notable exceptions of course.
VER gained the lead over LEC in the pits and then lost it with a mistake on cold tires. VER passed having gone all 4 off after touching LEC, he should've been made to give the position back.langedweil wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 06:24Not really, +/- 40+ extra illegal bhp did pass him eventually. One could say that became painfully visible @COTA.
Hahaha, he was hunted down like a bathtub rubberduck mate .. with those 40+ extra bhp he couldn't beat the DRS in the end. LEC simply lost the right to that corner as he didn't have the apex... and was doing so again in Austria until VER crashed into him putting him off track which clearly deserved a penalty.
It did not deserve any penalty, as the stewards decided wisely ..
It's racing, not millenial-esque entitlement ..
If those two races haven't opened your eyes regarding Leclerc and Verstappen, nothing will. Leclerc clearly outclassed Verstappen, and we have seen what measures Verstappen has to take to end up in front of him.langedweil wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 06:24Not really, +/- 40+ extra illegal bhp did pass him eventually. One could say that became painfully visible @COTA.
Hahaha, he was hunted down like a bathtub rubberduck mate .. with those 40+ extra bhp he couldn't beat the DRS in the end. LEC simply lost the right to that corner as he didn't have the apex... and was doing so again in Austria until VER crashed into him putting him off track which clearly deserved a penalty.
It did not deserve any penalty, as the stewards decided wisely ..
It's racing, not millenial-esque entitlement ..
ENGINE TUNER wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 15:05The biggest "entitled millennials" in F1 are daddy's little boys Stroll and VER.
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