Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software

[timbo]

The maximum speeds in the race are much better than in Qualy. Sure, it should be helped by slipstreaming, but that should affect other cars too. Can it be that they can't charge the battery fully during the out lap? Anyway, judging by the maximum speeds in the race and qualifying it seems they are mostly hurt in the latter.

[ScrewCaptain27]

Ferrari pu sounds different compared to last season at gear changes. What do you think about that? I am not sure but engine also sounds different

Electric motors are much quieter, and it sounds like it’s deploying ERS very little at all. It didn’t sound like that in testing either, which is why I think they had serious problems with the system.

[ScrewCaptain27]

The maximum speeds in the race are much better than in Qualy. Sure, it should be helped by slipstreaming, but that should affect other cars too. Can it be that they can't charge the battery fully during the out lap? Anyway, judging by the maximum speeds in the race and qualifying it seems they are mostly hurt in the latter.

Not only top speed, but acceleration was significantly better after the last two restarts, after they had plenty of time to recharge the batteries. Just look at how Leclerc got past Norris. Little to do with traction or tyre wear since they pitted at the same time and Norris also got fastest lap at the end.

[nemanja]

Ferrari pu sounds different compared to last season at gear changes. What do you think about that? I am not sure but engine also sounds different

Electric motors are much quieter, and it sounds like it’s deploying ERS very little at all. It didn’t sound like that in testing either, which is why I think they had serious problems with the system.

Do You maybe have some inside info...?

[McMika98]

Its clear that Ferrari have lost their magic Q3 button. Race pace suggests that relative power to competition is similar but in quali they cant turn up the wick.

[LM10]

A regulation related question: Since most of the parts of the engine (ICE, TC, MGU-H) has been freezed for the remaineder of the season, does that mean that they’re not allowed to develop the 2021 PU until this season ends?

[dans79]

A regulation related question: Since most of the parts of the engine (ICE, TC, MGU-H) has been freezed for the remaineder of the season, does that mean that they’re not allowed to develop the 2021 PU until this season ends?

I believe they can develop as much as they want, they just can't use the new stuff until next season.

[LM10]

A regulation related question: Since most of the parts of the engine (ICE, TC, MGU-H) has been freezed for the remaineder of the season, does that mean that they’re not allowed to develop the 2021 PU until this season ends?

I believe they can develop as much as they want, they just can't use the new stuff until next season.

Alright, thank you.

[bill shoe]

All 2020 Ferrari-powered teams (Ferrari, Haas, Alfa) lack pace including a conspicuous lack of straight-line speed. Now Haas principal Gunther Steiner has declared he is shocked!, yes shocked!, that the Ferrari powertrain is down on power. He is asking Ferrari to investigate. Seems odd or inexplicable on the surface because everyone is very familiar with the Ferrari powertrain rumors and corresponding recent FIA "settlement". But if I were Gunther and had to sign off on $20 million dollar checks to Ferrari for engines that were outlier-slow, then I might want my supplier to launch an investigation too.

Link to brief article-
https://racer.com/2020/07/06/steiner-wa ... e-deficit/

Not concerned here about cheating vs. bending rules, but Ferrari are behind every other engine supplier now that the powertrain rules/interpretation/enforcement are tightened up a bit. Not a little behind like one engine spec, but more like two years behind and a whole engine-generation! Looks like Ferrari took a risk with the direction of their powertrain development and it didn't work out.

[63l8qrrfy6]

As I've posted in December last year, Mercedes had pretty much ruled out Ferrari as a competitor for 2020 - I find it surprising that Ferrari customers are shocked.

What exactly is Binotto's official response? Initially they seemed to have blamed it all on drag but post Austria they seem to finally acknowledge engine power is down. Was there any reason given for this ?

I am also told that, while not directly accusing Ferrari of cheating, Andy Cowell declared in the last post-race debrief that they are expecting Ferrari to take a significant step back for 2020 and they now consider RBR Honda their main competitor for the next season.

[Alexf1]

Let's see how the speeds compare on a low altitude track with max downforce

[MtthsMlw]

Let's see how the speeds compare on a low altitude track with max downforce

Certainly better but most tracks aren't like this.
Come to think about it, Ferrari knew since November that they might loose their advantage and should have anticipated that this day could come at any time if they really tricked around. Makes me wonder how they decided between the current aero concept (max. downforce but draggy) or continuing with the low drag lower downforce one.

[LM10]

Let's see how the speeds compare on a low altitude track with max downforce

Certainly better but most tracks aren't like this.
Come to think about it, Ferrari knew since November that they might loose their advantage and should have anticipated that this day could come at any time if they really tricked around. Makes me wonder how they decided between the current aero concept (max. downforce but draggy) or continuing with the low drag lower downforce one.

Another thing which makes me wonder is why Binotto continuously insisted on the PU to be legal at any time until the very end of the season.
Fast forward to the current season, right after the race in Spielberg, he told that they lost power.

[wowgr8]

Certainly better but most tracks aren't like this.
Come to think about it, Ferrari knew since November that they might loose their advantage and should have anticipated that this day could come at any time if they really tricked around. Makes me wonder how they decided between the current aero concept (max. downforce but draggy) or continuing with the low drag lower downforce one.

They went in the right direction, that low drag concept where they lost a second to their competitors in the corners would've made this season even uglier than it is, that's before we mention the bad tyre management and awful race pace. This season was a lose-lose after the engine saga and clarifications

[wowgr8]

Another thing which makes me wonder is why Binotto continuously insisted on the PU to be legal at any time until the very end of the season.
Fast forward to the current season, right after the race in Spielberg, he told that they lost power.

There's just no way to handle the situation well, if he admits they lost power it's "Binotto admits Ferrari cheated" headlines. Playing dumb looks dumb but it's the better of the 2 evils. In Austria he had to admit it because the speed trap and lap times made it impossible to deny, he did as well as he could