[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

[SmallSoldier]

I don't see why 3rd would be out of reach. They're the most consistent team in the midfield. Their pace will only get better with upgrades. Ferrari has engine, driver and race direction issues; Renault has an inconsistent car; RP will not receive many upgrades, if at all.

It's a long season. Last year, Renault seemed unbeatable around Canada. But towards the end Carlos alone had more points than the 5th team in WCC.

As for Ferrari's Spa prospects, they have a really good low df package. Their chassis is better than the midfield rivals and it shows in the race, especially as it pertains to tyre management. It covers for the engine deficit in race.

I'm thinking of Spa and of our pace at the moment not the championship. It's possible that we might challenge for third but PhilipM is reporting that the build department is months behind the design department and not to expect any large upgrades any time soon, so I'm just not sure how that will progress, so I think it will be a tough fight for fourth and third would be amazing.

I hope you're right about third, but I don't feel any optimisim towards it right now. Ferrari have a decent package but I just don't know that it will be enough to mask the engine issues in Spa, but maybe my optimism there is misplaced! Lando will have a brand new engine so that will be worth a little more peak power and efficiency.

It will be interesting to see how the new engine mode regs affect Racing point in the race. Their Qualy is better than race in general so that may swing things a little in our favour.

Everyone's in the same boat due to Covid. However Ferrari seems to have correlation problems on top of that as well.

I expect RP to be a lot closer in quali. The Merc PU gives them a good 3-4 tenths on Saturdays compared to Renault & Honda. The Mcl35 enjoys medium speed corners so if the car performs well enough in qualifying to be ahead of the RPs then it'd be a good weekend.

For some reason, I believe Ferrari will make a step up at Spa and Monza... They haven’t really brought anything to the track in the last few races and that seem to indicate that they have focus on a different package which we could see at Spa


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[PhillipM]

I would not be surprised if the guys are faster than the Ferraris, the Tracing Point will be more of an issue.

[Darth-Piekus]

Trashing Point is definately gonna be an issue all year inside and outside races. Their car is too controversial to be just a simple photo copy. It smells of illegality and as the season goes more will come out.

Do we have any upgrade for Spa?

[diffuser]

Trashing Point is definately gonna be an issue all year inside and outside races. Their car is too controversial to be just a simple photo copy. It smells of illegality and as the season goes more will come out.

Do we have any upgrade for Spa?

Like I said before alot of this has to do with
1- How far back RP was last year (over 2 seconds).
2- Descrempency in budgets (which is the same as 1 cause, 1 isn't likely without 2).

The 3ird and new reason is that there is now technology/software that simplifies creating a very close facsimile of a part from a picture.

That other issue is this loop hole where all these "B" teams can buy IP for 2021 from the "A" teams without restriction. You better hope you can out Develop where the A teams will end the year cause the B teams will likely be Starting there, maybe even higher.

[djos]

Trashing Point is definately gonna be an issue all year inside and outside races. Their car is too controversial to be just a simple photo copy. It smells of illegality and as the season goes more will come out.

Do we have any upgrade for Spa?

Like I said before alot of this has to do with
1- How far back RP was last year (over 2 seconds).
2- Descrempency in budgets (which is the same as 1 cause, 1 isn't likely without 2).

The 3ird and new reason is that there is now technology/software that simplifies creating a very close facsimile of a part from a picture.

That other issue is this loop hole where all these "B" teams can buy IP for 2021 from the "A" teams without restriction. You better hope you can out Develop where the A teams will end the year cause the B teams will likely be Starting there, maybe even higher.

If Colin Kholes is right about the transfer of Merc designs and a 60% model, Tracing Point could be thrown out of the championship.

[adrianjordan]

Trashing Point is definately gonna be an issue all year inside and outside races. Their car is too controversial to be just a simple photo copy. It smells of illegality and as the season goes more will come out.

Do we have any upgrade for Spa?

Like I said before alot of this has to do with
1- How far back RP was last year (over 2 seconds).
2- Descrempency in budgets (which is the same as 1 cause, 1 isn't likely without 2).

The 3ird and new reason is that there is now technology/software that simplifies creating a very close facsimile of a part from a picture.

That other issue is this loop hole where all these "B" teams can buy IP for 2021 from the "A" teams without restriction. You better hope you can out Develop where the A teams will end the year cause the B teams will likely be Starting there, maybe even higher.

If Colin Kholes is right about the transfer of Merc designs and a 60% model, Tracing Point could be thrown out of the championship.

If Colin Kholes told me the Earth is round, I'd start questioning whether flat earthers might be on to something.

The man is a crook and a con man. I don't believe a word he says. And how would he know anyway??

[djos]

That’s true, he is dodgy but it’s fun to watch and these claims will hopefully make the FiA dig even deeper into Tracing Points work.

[McFAN]

Good interview

[Ground Effect]

Trashing Point is definately gonna be an issue all year inside and outside races. Their car is too controversial to be just a simple photo copy. It smells of illegality and as the season goes more will come out.

Do we have any upgrade for Spa?

Like I said before alot of this has to do with
1- How far back RP was last year (over 2 seconds).
2- Descrempency in budgets (which is the same as 1 cause, 1 isn't likely without 2).

The 3ird and new reason is that there is now technology/software that simplifies creating a very close facsimile of a part from a picture.

That other issue is this loop hole where all these "B" teams can buy IP for 2021 from the "A" teams without restriction. You better hope you can out Develop where the A teams will end the year cause the B teams will likely be Starting there, maybe even higher.

If Colin Kholes is right about the transfer of Merc designs and a 60% model, Tracing Point could be thrown out of the championship.

He’s not the most credible source, I’m afraid. Has a lot of animosity towards Toto, so don’t expect him to be fair and balanced. A couple of years ago, you only got made up stories from a few specific outlets. These days, anybody can make stuff up and file it under an anonymous source and get away with it.

[Darth-Piekus]

In Greece we have a motto. Where there's smoke there is also fire. In this situation I feel that the FIA should investigate further cause there are more things hidden that we don't know. After all the Spygate started from two mechanics that wanted to leave for Honda taking data with them and escalated to a full blown war.

[Mchamilton]

In Greece we have a motto. Where there's smoke there is also fire. In this situation I feel that the FIA should investigate further cause there are more things hidden that we don't know. After all the Spygate started from two mechanics that wanted to leave for Honda taking data with them and escalated to a full blown war.

surely this discussion is for the RP thread? not the mclaren thread. i dont understand why peoples issues with RP are discussed constantly in other threads, especially it seems this Mclaren one.

[bauc]

In Greece we have a motto. Where there's smoke there is also fire. In this situation I feel that the FIA should investigate further cause there are more things hidden that we don't know. After all the Spygate started from two mechanics that wanted to leave for Honda taking data with them and escalated to a full blown war.

surely this discussion is for the RP thread? not the mclaren thread. i dont understand why peoples issues with RP are discussed constantly in other threads, especially it seems this Mclaren one.

Yes I agree, the fact that RP story (IN)directly affects Mclaren's standings in the championship so I can see the need to discuss this here, but I would rather talk about our team and the progress we are making, after 6 races we have doubled the points we had at the same point last year, and I think we can fight for 3rd if we execute our race strategies perfectly and if we keep improving the car.

[SmallSoldier]

Mclaren committed to the future in F1... Awesome!




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[bauc]

Great news, we are first to announce this

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