[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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We have seen it all year, traffic and a heavy car reduce our pace. General the car is fast. There es even a real chance against renault in monza.

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fouad1979 wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:42
Its gonna be hard against renault in monza they are far ahead in fast tracks
Yea I agree, I think they’ll be P3 in the constructors after Monza, hopefully we will be close behind in P4....
Just a fan's point of view

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ScottR267 wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:45
Lando made the best of the situation in the end. Another lap or two and it could’ve been a lot better but hey that’s racing. We’re the new sidepod vanes used this race? If not let’s hope they deliver some lap time for future races alongside other updates as appears other cars are developing a slightly faster pace than us.
To me, it looks like temperatures and tyres are the factor of fluctuating results of all midfield teams at the moment. Even Alfa Romeo looked racy today, and we know they are far at the back and not very competitive.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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ScottR267 wrote:Lando made the best of the situation in the end. Another lap or two and it could’ve been a lot better but hey that’s racing. We’re the new sidepod vanes used this race? If not let’s hope they deliver some lap time for future races alongside other updates as appears other cars are developing a slightly faster pace than us.
No, the new deflectors weren’t on the car today


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proteus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:47
Sainz really collecting the worst luck of them all... Now Renault has joined the battle for third and we have a 4way battle up our hands to look forward to.
What got me was the shaking and bowing of the head When watching those Ferrari’s get mauled on the straights

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Macklaren wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:48
SilviuAgo wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:45
Macklaren wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:43
That could have been a lot better but could also have been a lot worse. McLaren back to P4 in constructors?
We were P4...now back on P3!
Yes sorry P3. At the pre season tests, if you had told me McLaren would be P3 in the constructors almost half way through the season, I would have taken it!!
The problem is that margins are microscopical. Today P3 and tomorrow they can fall to P6. The good thing is that even if they fall to 6th by the end of the season they wont be losing a huge amount of reward money since this year the overall prize money fund will be tiny and future fund will fall only for 1 percent per place.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:52
Macklaren wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:48
SilviuAgo wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:45


We were P4...now back on P3!
Yes sorry P3. At the pre season tests, if you had told me McLaren would be P3 in the constructors almost half way through the season, I would have taken it!!
The problem is that margins are microscopical. Today P3 and tomorrow they can fall to P6. The good thing is that even if they fall to 6th by the end of the season they wont be losing a huge amount of reward money since this year the overall prize money fund will be tiny and future fund will fall only for 1 percent per place.
Bragging rights are priceless though :twisted:
Just a fan's point of view

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:09
Well it's a long season that reminds me of last year. We also lost a lot of points from badluck last year otherwise we could have cleared that 4th place faster. Remains to be seen. I am still confident on the team that we will outdevelop both Renault and Racing Point. I don't count Ferrari anymore since they seem to have raised a white flag for this year.
It's not stupid. It's a cost saving thing. Just imagine the cost of 2 xtra cars and transport to every race. It would likely mean an even larger gap between the have and the have nots.

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haza wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:50
proteus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:47
Sainz really collecting the worst luck of them all... Now Renault has joined the battle for third and we have a 4way battle up our hands to look forward to.
What got me was the shaking and bowing of the head When watching those Ferrari’s get mauled on the straights
Seeing his future to come in 2021...I have allways thought his Ferrari switch was a bit of a d*ck move to Mclaren, especially since Zak saved him from the market and took him into his team. He could have been Mclarens next Mika Hakkinen perhaps.

At the end i dont blame him, Farrari is a Ferrai afterall, but aparently he will suffer in his first season, and there is even a big danger he can get sacked if the whole thing gets horribly wrong.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Today’s result is a good one all things considered... A shame with the issue with Carlos, which hopefully doesn’t end up requiring a new PU.

Lando is still struggling on the first lap of the race, but I can appreciate the fact that he is trying to keep the car safe... A little too cautious? Maybe... But, I much rather have him doing that than simply getting into a crash on the first couple of corners and ending his race right there.

The car seemed to have very good pace on the Hard tires, specially with free air... The way Lando reeled Stroll for the overtake was pretty impressive, using all of the available energy on S3 on the previous lap to setup the overtake... He just got unlucky at the end that Ocon was on the DRS against Albon and that meant he could only hold position and wait.

P7... Ahead of both Racing Points and both Ferraris is a great result after what looked like a very bad Sunday for Mclaren... Renault has closed the gap dramatically, but even when they should have an advantage at Monza, there are still a lot of races on the calendar where I would expect Mclaren to be either on par or ahead of them.

The biggest highlight is the fact that we beat the RP’s in what was expected to be a good track for them.


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chrisgr wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:40
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:16
Norris race starts are just awful. Great initial getaway and then just isn’t ruthless enough. So frustrating!!
And what troubles me more is that he is not improving a bit. Every race its the same thing. The question is can he improve?
He tends to run a little more DF than Sainz. you can see that in thier times in the fast sectors @ tracks. It's also why he tends to have better tire life and more speed at the end.

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diffuser wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:55
Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:09
Well it's a long season that reminds me of last year. We also lost a lot of points from badluck last year otherwise we could have cleared that 4th place faster. Remains to be seen. I am still confident on the team that we will outdevelop both Renault and Racing Point. I don't count Ferrari anymore since they seem to have raised a white flag for this year.
It's not stupid. It's a cost saving thing. Just imagine the cost of 2 xtra cars and transport to every race. It would likely mean an even larger gap between the have and the have nots.
I meant it was stupid on the fact that Sainz had to retire from the race and he had a good chance to gain a lot of points today.

As for Norris was there a reason we have chosen a high DF package?
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diffuser wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:00
chrisgr wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:40
101FlyingDutchman wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:16
Norris race starts are just awful. Great initial getaway and then just isn’t ruthless enough. So frustrating!!
And what troubles me more is that he is not improving a bit. Every race its the same thing. The question is can he improve?
He tends to run a little more DF than Sainz. you can see that in thier times in the fast sectors @ tracks. It's also why he tends to have better tire life and more speed at the end.
Better to climb the order, than to smash the car at the start. It is not ideal, but still better then collecting a big fat zero.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:56
haza wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:50
proteus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:47
Sainz really collecting the worst luck of them all... Now Renault has joined the battle for third and we have a 4way battle up our hands to look forward to.
What got me was the shaking and bowing of the head When watching those Ferrari’s get mauled on the straights
Seeing his future to come in 2021...I have allways thought his Ferrari switch was a bit of a d*ck move to Mclaren, especially since Zak saved him from the market and took him into his team. He could have been Mclarens next Mika Hakkinen perhaps.

At the end i dont blame him, Farrari is a Ferrai afterall, but aparently he will suffer in his first season, and there is even a big danger he can get sacked if the whole thing gets horribly wrong.
I agree with this, I was a bit surprised considering his future was more or less uncertain and got the opportunity to join a resurgent McLaren. I think the fact that Ricciardo was available and they were able to get him made it less uncomfortable for McLaren.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
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Interesting from Lando’s interview... Mclaren run the engine on a conservative mode during the race for fears of having a similar problem like Carlos... Which made him lose in regards to overtaking during the race.


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