[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:01
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30 Aug 2020, 16:55
Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 15:09
Well it's a long season that reminds me of last year. We also lost a lot of points from badluck last year otherwise we could have cleared that 4th place faster. Remains to be seen. I am still confident on the team that we will outdevelop both Renault and Racing Point. I don't count Ferrari anymore since they seem to have raised a white flag for this year.
It's not stupid. It's a cost saving thing. Just imagine the cost of 2 xtra cars and transport to every race. It would likely mean an even larger gap between the have and the have nots.
I meant it was stupid on the fact that Sainz had to retire from the race and he had a good chance to gain a lot of points today.

As for Norris was there a reason we have chosen a high DF package?
This is just my opinion but I think Lando just seems to setup the car with just a little more DF than Sainz. I wouldn't say high DF. Just a little more than Sainz. Why ? I presume it's cause he likes it that way.

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Why is Racing Point with 81 points? They were supposed to be 3 points back.

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SmallSoldier wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:10
Interesting from Lando’s interview... Mclaren run the engine on a conservative mode during the race for fears of having a similar problem like Carlos... Which made him lose in regards to overtaking during the race.


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Interesting since Renault didn't do the same. I wonder if the exhaust is a McLaren Design??? I mean they get the requirements from Renault and McLaren build them for thier aero requirements of thier chassis.

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I don't know what to say about today, SAI was unlucky and NOR had an average race. We need to sort this cooling issues if we want to fight for P3 in constructors.
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bauc wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:37
I don't know what to say about today, SAI was unlucky and NOR had an average race. We need to sort this cooling issues if we want to fight for P3 in constructors.
Cooling issues were solved two weeks ago when Sainz replaced his engine for a new one.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:13
Why is Racing Point with 81 points? They were supposed to be 3 points back.
Where are you seeing this?. Both motorsport.com and F1.com have RP behind mcl

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diffuser wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 17:10
Interesting from Lando’s interview... Mclaren run the engine on a conservative mode during the race for fears of having a similar problem like Carlos... Which made him lose in regards to overtaking during the race.


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Interesting since Renault didn't do the same. I wonder if the exhaust is a McLaren Design??? I mean they get the requirements from Renault and McLaren build them for thier aero requirements of thier chassis.
The exhausts could indeed be different, but the problem with Carlos was PU related (that created the exhaust issue), therefore it is understandable the team was cautious... Renault should have probably been cautious too, but I guess they weren’t as concerned or rolled the dice (and it paid off with great points for them).


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We have been outdeveloped already by Renault and RP..

Forget about P3. We’ll be lucky if we manage to hold on for P4.

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-------------McLaren fear: Sainz could debut third engine at Monza------------

The problems in the engine of the Spanish could be irreparable.

Carlos Sainz's power unit could have said goodbye to its life cycle after just two races. The Spanish rider was unable to participate in the Belgian Grand Prix due to an engine failure when he was making his entry lap on the grid. White smoke began to rise from the back of the McLaren and the worst omens were feared in the garage.

After a quick analysis, Sainz's non-participation in Spa-Francorchamps was confirmed. Frustration seized the Madrid driver. Carlos was unable to race on his favorite circuit after Saturday's great qualifying session and pointed to a problem with one of the cylinders as the cause of the internal damage to the power unit.

"We believe that the mishap has been caused by a problem in the engine, I was going to say, well in a cylinder , but they won't let me say it, so I'm not happy," explained the McLaren driver as he got off the car to Movistar + F1.

"Very disappointing for Carlos. Power unit problem. We are afraid to wait to see what exactly happened. We have to look at the data and see what has been damaged. I don't want to say much. There is a high probability that the engine is dead already. see what it means for the end of the season " , Seidl concludes disappointed.

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Renault sabotage starting already :lol:
Just a fan's point of view

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McL-H wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 19:04
We have been outdeveloped already by Renault and RP..

Forget about P3. We’ll be lucky if we manage to hold on for P4.
Until it’s P1 I’m no too fussed where McLaren come

The midfield have never been so close, and McLaren aren’t just In the thick of it, their still actually leading it, albeit thanks to TP’s penalty

It’s not as if we were off the pace today at all, just we didn’t get it right in quali and Carlos failed to start, who probably would have beat Ocon and been able to take the fight to Dani

The import thing is they are getting on with their job, understand Ming where improvements are needed and moving forward. The balance of power will continue to shift track to track for the end of the year... then We Go Again, but this time with a Merc PU in the back which will allow us to compete fairly with the pink care

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ANDREAS SEIDL, Team Principal

“It was damage-limitation today. Despite having a good race car here, we could only score six points. Carlos’ race was over before it began with a PU failure on his reconnaissance laps-to-grid, which forced us to retire the car before the start.

https://www.mclaren.com/racing/2020/bel ... rand-prix/
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The team though has to hurry up with the upgrades. We need a new package so we can be able to be in front again cause we are struggling 3 races now.

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The team should be taking good advantage of Ferrari poor form. Every point score now is worth 2. The point and the one Ferrari have to get instead of it to catch up.
There could not have been a worse time to lose a car from scoring.

Edit, yes, I know it was not the plan to retire him from the grid, but it is annoying
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Xero wrote:
30 Aug 2020, 16:44
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30 Aug 2020, 16:42
Its gonna be hard against renault in monza they are far ahead in fast tracks
McLaren were running slightly more downforce here, will be interesting to see what happens when they strip that off for Monza. I think it will be close.
Same rear-wing but new sidepod deflectors and perhaps other updates for Monza. Can definitely split the Renaults.