2020 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, September 4 - 6

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So many hopes dashed from the Party Mode ban. Congratulations to FIA!

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Pany wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:05
Assuming now redbul chassis is top, I'm sorry to say is clear honda Pu is not ready to reach mercedes and help title battle
That's some assumption. It's funny how whenever the laptime isn't there it's always blamed on the engine supplier but never on the non-engine bits of the car. RedBull will run out of engine suppliers if they keep using that excuse.
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"Glitch" they know.

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yelistener wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:05
Bottas hit 340kph before T1 without a tow. In 2019 they got 345kph with a tow. Did Mercedes find a way to corporate Strat 2 power into the race mode or something?
Lower drag on the car with the high inlet sidepods and more power in almost every condition because of the overheating they suffered most of 2019.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:08
Pany wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:05
Assuming now redbul chassis is top, I'm sorry to say is clear honda Pu is not ready to reach mercedes and help title battle
That's some assumption. It's funny how whenever the laptime isn't there it's always blamed on the engine supplier but never on the non-engine bits of the car. RedBull will run out of engine suppliers if they keep using that excuse.
Actually it is their hand stand performing chassis. Too draggy.

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yelistener wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:05
Bottas hit 340kph before T1 without a tow. In 2019 they got 345kph with a tow. Did Mercedes find a way to corporate Strat 2 power into the race mode or something?
That's what was suggested would happen to some extent. If they don't have to use up engine life in extreme qualifying modes, you get to run the engine a bit harder in the race.
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Wass85 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:07
dans79 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:06
Wass85 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:03


Quite strange then that the Merc drivers didn't want a tow when all the other drivers did. 🤔
Because it's just as likely to hinder you as it is to help you. It might also have different effects on their aero package, as they run a different philosophy to almost everyone else!
Likely to hinder them when they were always the first out?

They had ample opportunity to set it up nicely.
It has nothing to do with where they were positioned relative to the rest of the field. You can easily get too close and then you're hindering the second car through sector 2.
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So if those engine modes were ever in the mind in reeling back Mercedes... well, that was never going to happen. :roll: Well done to Mercedes though, fastest average speed lap in history. Obvious the (not oval) Bahrain race might put pay to that, but still incredibly impressive... baring any reliability issues in the race, they'll take this one with ease.

Hugely impressive from Sainz, sneaking into Q3. I really hope he has a clean race and, at the very least, can score some solid points. Perez in P4 might be in with a shot of P3, though I'm sure Max will make it hard for him. I wonder how much Honda lost out with these engine mode clarifications... but no doubt Red Bull will still be strong in the race. Was expecting a bit more from Renault in qualifying, giving their pace over the weekend... but a bit far down. Their race pace looked quite decent so maybe they'll feature more there.

Ferrari... well, there isn't much to say. I can only defend them as they might've got both cars in Q2 today had it not been for the Q1 qualifying shambles at the end, but don't see them gaining much in the race unfortunately. Hope I'm wrong, but being realistic...

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Moore77 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:07
So many hopes dashed from the Party Mode ban. Congratulations to FIA!

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It was soooo predictable though.

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Red Bull :lol: =D>

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Restomaniac wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:10
Moore77 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:07
So many hopes dashed from the Party Mode ban. Congratulations to FIA!

https://media.tenor.com/images/da35f002 ... /tenor.gif
It was soooo predictable though.
FIA as always is a bunch of jokers listening to the clowns likes Horner and Binotto to take TECHNICAL decisions.
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The first lap is going to be interesting. I can see the Mercs fighting in to the first chicane and those behind having a few incidents. Safety car on lap 1?
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dans79 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:10
Wass85 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:07
dans79 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:06


Because it's just as likely to hinder you as it is to help you. It might also have different effects on their aero package, as they run a different philosophy to almost everyone else!
Likely to hinder them when they were always the first out?

They had ample opportunity to set it up nicely.
It has nothing to do with where they were positioned relative to the rest of the field. You can easily get too close and then you're hindering the second car through sector 2.
It's not difficult to stay a few seconds behind.

Anyway it looks as though Hamilton received a tow so very poor of Merc if you ask me.

I find it very hard to believe Bottas chose to go first.

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Pany wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:05
Assuming now redbul chassis is top, I'm sorry to say is clear honda Pu is not ready to reach mercedes and help title battle
That is a big assumption. At best it’s the second place chassis behind Mercedes.

What data are you using to base your assumption on?

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Moore77 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:11
Restomaniac wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:10
Moore77 wrote:
05 Sep 2020, 16:07
So many hopes dashed from the Party Mode ban. Congratulations to FIA!

https://media.tenor.com/images/da35f002 ... /tenor.gif
It was soooo predictable though.
FIA as always is a bunch of jokers listening to the clowns likes Horner and Binotto to take TECHNICAL decisions.
The thing is, im going to predict more dnfs for the rest of the season from teams running to hard, my money is on a few for Red Bull