[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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I’d love to see Carlos on the podium today but cannot count out the red bulls or racing points it’ll be hard to keep them behind hopefully they can brake drs quite early on in the race also need to ensure no pit stop/PU issues

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haza wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 10:21
I’d love to see Carlos on the podium today but cannot count out the red bulls or racing points it’ll be hard to keep them behind hopefully they can brake drs quite early on in the race also need to ensure no pit stop/PU issues
The podium might be difficult to get, but I hope both cars finish the race and finish on high positions. It is important to take some points back from RP and Renault considering the bad couple of races the team has had lately with one car retiring.
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Agree that a podium would be tough with a few of the cars behind definitely faster in race trim. A double top 6 finish would be great and would somewhat negate Renault’s excellent result at Spa last weekend as well. It would also give the team a bit of breathing space to the Racing Points in the constructors standings which is good at a track many expected them to be clear best of the rest.

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Although Lando has more point than Carlos, so far Carlos has usually looked the better racer. With both cars up the sharp end and hopefully out of the 'squabble' in mid-midfield I watch with interest. So often Lando seems to lose a couple of places at the start and Carlos gain them, so..
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Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 13:29
Although Lando has more point than Carlos, so far Carlos has usually looked the better racer. With both cars up the sharp end and hopefully out of the 'squabble' in mid-midfield I watch with interest. So often Lando seems to lose a couple of places at the start and Carlos gain them, so..
I don’t see Carlos gaining a couple of places at the start this time round unfortunately :lol:

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the EDGE wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:14
Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 13:29
Although Lando has more point than Carlos, so far Carlos has usually looked the better racer. With both cars up the sharp end and hopefully out of the 'squabble' in mid-midfield I watch with interest. So often Lando seems to lose a couple of places at the start and Carlos gain them, so..
I don’t see Carlos gaining a couple of places at the start this time round unfortunately :lol:
Ah, I was looking forward to that :mrgreen:
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Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:15
the EDGE wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:14
Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 13:29
Although Lando has more point than Carlos, so far Carlos has usually looked the better racer. With both cars up the sharp end and hopefully out of the 'squabble' in mid-midfield I watch with interest. So often Lando seems to lose a couple of places at the start and Carlos gain them, so..
I don’t see Carlos gaining a couple of places at the start this time round unfortunately :lol:
Ah, I was looking forward to that :mrgreen:
Unless the Mercs get a bad start, he'll try to avoid overtaking them in order to not lose net time.

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M840TR wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:39
Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:15
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06 Sep 2020, 14:14


I don’t see Carlos gaining a couple of places at the start this time round unfortunately :lol:
Ah, I was looking forward to that :mrgreen:
Unless the Mercs get a bad start, he'll try to avoid overtaking them in order to not lose net time.
Its not his race, why waste resource fighting Merc and RbR.
Plenty points on offer but they are not given out until the finish. A nice boring run would be fine
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M840TR wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 00:49
proteus wrote: Carlos is actually at the worst possible spot. He might start even better than Bottas, but just enough to get side by side in turn 1-2 which can cost him positions. If he manages to retain his position, then he will start to suffer from lap 3 with DRS being enabled and Mercs allready gone infront of him. He probably wont be able to run away from the chasing pack, since the car is a bit slower when filled with fuel and needs some time to give its full potential.

Tough race tomorrow, hopefully no mechanical breakdowns and both cars in top 10.
Very pessimistic outlook for tomorrow... The tow works up to 4-5 seconds behind a car, so even if Mercedes do build a quick gap, the tow may allow him to keep the cars behind at bay... In addition, running in free air if he can brake the DRS from the cars behind will be beneficial from a tire life perspective.

Pretty hard to tell how the race will develop tomorrow.


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Having DRS can actually help with tire management at Monza by allowing slow exits to protect the rears and still remaining in touch through the slipstream.

What might help the team is having a skinnier rear wing than both RP and Renaults. I’m not sure about the Redbull though.
But it can also destroy your front tires... The teams are running such low downforce setups that running close enough to someone to be on DRS could also be a problem.

In any case... We are 10 minutes away from race start... It’s almost 7am around here... Let’s hope for clean getaways!


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M840TR wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:39
Big Tea wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:15
the EDGE wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:14


I don’t see Carlos gaining a couple of places at the start this time round unfortunately :lol:
Ah, I was looking forward to that :mrgreen:
Unless the Mercs get a bad start, he'll try to avoid overtaking them in order to not lose net time.
Do you think? He's a racer, and they have fought at the start to get past Mercs at the start before, so I think he will ignore what car it is and go for it if he sees a chance.
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SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:53
M840TR wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 00:49

Very pessimistic outlook for tomorrow... The tow works up to 4-5 seconds behind a car, so even if Mercedes do build a quick gap, the tow may allow him to keep the cars behind at bay... In addition, running in free air if he can brake the DRS from the cars behind will be beneficial from a tire life perspective.

Pretty hard to tell how the race will develop tomorrow.


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Having DRS can actually help with tire management at Monza by allowing slow exits to protect the rears and still remaining in touch through the slipstream.

What might help the team is having a skinnier rear wing than both RP and Renaults. I’m not sure about the Redbull though.
But it can also destroy your front tires... The teams are running such low downforce setups that running close enough to someone to be on DRS could also be a problem.

In any case... We are 10 minutes away from race start... It’s almost 7am around here... Let’s hope for clean getaways!


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Hoping for a clean start for Norris to get some places and Sainz to keep 3rd place. Then I wish Sainz to pull away from his opponents to avoid that DRS. It's as simple as that. If Mclaren is the fastest car in Monza than the rest of the midfield it's time to prove it now in the race by leaving the DRS zone in two laps before it's activated.

And most important. DO NOT with caps on screw up the pitstops.
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M840TR wrote:
SmallSoldier wrote:
06 Sep 2020, 14:53
M840TR wrote: Having DRS can actually help with tire management at Monza by allowing slow exits to protect the rears and still remaining in touch through the slipstream.

What might help the team is having a skinnier rear wing than both RP and Renaults. I’m not sure about the Redbull though.
But it can also destroy your front tires... The teams are running such low downforce setups that running close enough to someone to be on DRS could also be a problem.

In any case... We are 10 minutes away from race start... It’s almost 7am around here... Let’s hope for clean getaways!


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You aré right!


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Considering next year rules don't change we need to keep developing cause this time it's gonna be a two year race before the reset to be best of the rest.