[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Excellent =D>

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Excellent pitt work by Mclaren. Excellent work by Norris also to slam on the brakes and give Mclaren time. FIA should clamp down on that but since they do not, well played to Norris for exploiting it!
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They do clamp down on it but in Norris' case he didn't back up enough for a penalty

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Mclarensenna wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 07:39
Excellent pitt work by Mclaren. Excellent work by Norris also to slam on the brakes and give Mclaren time. FIA should clamp down on that but since they do not, well played to Norris for exploiting it!
It was a strong weekend for the team, I hope they found new faith in themselves.

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_cerber1 wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 08:12
Mclarensenna wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 07:39
Excellent pitt work by Mclaren. Excellent work by Norris also to slam on the brakes and give Mclaren time. FIA should clamp down on that but since they do not, well played to Norris for exploiting it!
It was a strong weekend for the team, I hope they found new faith in themselves.
Yes! It seems they now have a chassis which is very strong on all circuits. Unlike Renault's which is nowhere near as consistent. I wonder how much lap time they will gain with the Mercedes engine next year
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It is difficult to say for next year car with Mercedes engine. Mclaren wasted 3 years with Honda and it took 3 years to come up with good car using Renault Engine. I would say may be in 2022 or 23 they will be strong with Mercedes engine.

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I think 2021 can be a smooth transition, honestly, I don't think there will be gain or loss on that due to the need of integration and the Renault engine being really good now.

What is good is indeed that they are much more consistent, still work to do on that, but they are now clearly in a strong position for P3 [-o<

I hope more podiums this year.

Consistency is really one though thing to have, we can see how RP, Renault or other teams struggle to be as good as any races, this is one strenght of Mercedes

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What is Mclaren prospect this weekend in Mugello, it has many high speed corners (more like Silverstone setup I would say). Can we repeat last weekend performance?

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Silverstone also has some slow speed corners, Mugello seems to be medium to high speed. Paul Di Resta suggested they may never drop below 4th gear, so it could be good for us.

In Monza it seemed to be that we struggled more at the slow corners then bolted off in S2 and S3. Sainz was consistently losing time in S1 to Gasly and gaining back in the rest of the lap.
At one point I thought it was energy deployment when Lando was doing the same thing earlier in the race, but I guess it is more down to the cars strengths, we will suffer at slower corners.

I'm optimistic that Mugello will offer a similar opportunity than Monza.
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08 Sep 2020, 11:09

In Monza it seemed to be that we struggled more at the slow corners then bolted off in S2 and S3. Sainz was consistently losing time in S1 to Gasly and gaining back in the rest of the lap.
I read it differently; was watching the sectors times closely the last few laps. Carlos was consistently 2-3 tenths faster in S1, 2 tenths slower in S2, and then they matched each other in S3. On a good lap he gained as much as 0.5 in S1. Once he caught up, this changed due to running in dirty air.

The theoretical best lap chart posted after practice also showed this patterns as I recall, with the AT being really strong in S2 and S3.

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It also seems to be easier to keep position the higher up you get. The few places gained in qualli enable a different race strategy, which seems to suit Mclaren and the drivers.
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From Pirelli, about the Mugello track
The 15 corners are mainly medium to high speed, with no really tight chicanes or big braking zone throughout the 5.2-kilometre lap.
The right-hand Arrabbiata corners are the two quickest corners of the track, probably taken flat-out in a Formula 1 car at speeds of around 260 or 270kph.
It is quite a technical layout as every corner is crucial for different reasons: the Luco - Poggio Secco – Materassi complex at the start of the lap is all about maintaining the highest possible apex speed and perfect racing line, while the Biondetti corners at the end of the lap (which almost make up a natural chicane) are vital as a launch pad onto the following lap.

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Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?

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Herr_Koos wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 11:54
mwillems wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 11:09

In Monza it seemed to be that we struggled more at the slow corners then bolted off in S2 and S3. Sainz was consistently losing time in S1 to Gasly and gaining back in the rest of the lap.
I read it differently; was watching the sectors times closely the last few laps. Carlos was consistently 2-3 tenths faster in S1, 2 tenths slower in S2, and then they matched each other in S3. On a good lap he gained as much as 0.5 in S1. Once he caught up, this changed due to running in dirty air.

The theoretical best lap chart posted after practice also showed this patterns as I recall, with the AT being really strong in S2 and S3.
I'd need to watch again but I'm sure I remember seeing this pattern throughout the race
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DivebombDerek wrote:
08 Sep 2020, 12:40
Very surprised Nando didnt get the penalty for the pit incident, it clearly benefited both him and Sainz by hindering his rivals and was rather dangerous in my eyes. Didnt Vettel do exactly the same in Hungary in the RB days and get a penalty before?
If I heard correctly, he didn't get a penalty because he was not instructed to do it.