2020 Tuscan Grand Prix - Mugello, September 11 - 13

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godlameroso wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 01:12
zibby43 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 00:29
PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 23:12
I feel they still run detuned engine mapsin practice. Should still comply with the new directives.
Yeah, practice they were running Strat 11. TD only applies to quali/race (at least this is what has been publicly confirmed).
Parc Ferme, so from FP3.

BTW, fastest time in FP1 has traditionally been the fastest time they can achieve in a race scenario on low fuel.
My understanding is that cars must be placed in parc fermé within 3.5 hrs from the end of qualifying until 5 hrs before the start of the race formation lap.

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zibby43 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 03:26
godlameroso wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 01:12
zibby43 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 00:29


Yeah, practice they were running Strat 11. TD only applies to quali/race (at least this is what has been publicly confirmed).
Parc Ferme, so from FP3.

BTW, fastest time in FP1 has traditionally been the fastest time they can achieve in a race scenario on low fuel.
My understanding is that cars must be placed in parc fermé within 3.5 hrs from the end of qualifying until 5 hrs before the start of the race formation lap.
Parc ferme begins as soon as they roll out of the garage for q1, no more changes... besides front wing level tire pressures and fuel loads

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That is accurate. They can make setup changes during FP3 and between FP3 and qualifying but not after car leaves garage in q1
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Just finished watching P1 and P2 sessions. What a joy to watch F1 cars on a proper old school track. There isn't going to be a ton of passing on Sunday, but at least it's fun to watch the cars fly around the track. What a gorgeous part of the world too.

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Ringleheim wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 07:56
Just finished watching P1 and P2 sessions. What a joy to watch F1 cars on a proper old school track. There isn't going to be a ton of passing on Sunday, but at least it's fun to watch the cars fly around the track. What a gorgeous part of the world too.
Amazing, especially when you're zoomed in to a car giving us no sense of speed.

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Wass85 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 10:05
Ringleheim wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 07:56
Just finished watching P1 and P2 sessions. What a joy to watch F1 cars on a proper old school track. There isn't going to be a ton of passing on Sunday, but at least it's fun to watch the cars fly around the track. What a gorgeous part of the world too.
Amazing, especially when you're zoomed in to a car giving us no sense of speed.
I think this is a response to the video clip of Senna at Silverstone Sainz posted a few weeks ago. It seems they were experimenting with re-creating the 90s shaky camera effect people on Twitter seem to like so much.

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Mogster wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 10:41
Wass85 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 10:05
Ringleheim wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 07:56
Just finished watching P1 and P2 sessions. What a joy to watch F1 cars on a proper old school track. There isn't going to be a ton of passing on Sunday, but at least it's fun to watch the cars fly around the track. What a gorgeous part of the world too.
Amazing, especially when you're zoomed in to a car giving us no sense of speed.
I think this is a response to the video clip of Senna at Silverstone Sainz posted a few weeks ago. It seems they were experimenting with re-creating the 90s shaky camera effect people on Twitter seem to like so much.
No it's just a gripe I've had for ages now, it's ridiculous that you get a better sense of the speed and intensity by watching people's smart phone track side that than the TV cameras that have thousands and thousands spent on them.

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Hamilton infuriates me, just chilling in the garage whilst Bottas is straight out hammering it.

If I was struggling on a circuit I'd want to be getting out and back on it ASAP.

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Wass85 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 12:10
Hamilton infuriates me, just chilling in the garage whilst Bottas is straight out hammering it.

If I was struggling on a circuit I'd want to be getting out and back on it ASAP.
Have to agree here, Bottas just like yesterday straight out on a clear track, perfect tyre prep information without having to find gaps and move out the way of other cars and clear for flying laps meanwhile Lewis comes out with 18 other cars everywhere on track.

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matt_b wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 12:12
Wass85 wrote:
12 Sep 2020, 12:10
Hamilton infuriates me, just chilling in the garage whilst Bottas is straight out hammering it.

If I was struggling on a circuit I'd want to be getting out and back on it ASAP.
Have to agree here, Bottas just like yesterday straight out on a clear track, perfect tyre prep information without having to find gaps and move out the way of other cars and clear for flying laps meanwhile Lewis comes out with 18 other cars everywhere on track.
It should have been Hamilton making that move and not Bottas, especially when he admittedly said he is struggling around here.

It's no good having a slight race pace advantage when you will not be able to utilise it if you qualify second and don't have track position.

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I’m relatively new to F1 (my third year as a fan). I’m not at all familiar with this race track. From my amateur/armchair perspective, this looks to be a good, challenging track. It looks like the heat will be tearing up tires. It will be interesting to see how many go to a 2-stop strategy. Enjoy the weekend, Gents.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 19:35
Wass85 wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 18:48
PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Sep 2020, 18:43
Uh, OK. I thought I lost count but will take your word for it.

That said these sort of processional track
layout is usually where Bottas has the best chance to win if he starts lap 2 in front of Lewis. The big fly in his ointment however is the fact that this track is very hard on tyres. Bottas hasn't done well this year at the tyre managment so he will really impress me if he can keep a chasing Lewis behind.
He held Hamilton off at Silverstone and had him easily covered until he was put on a poor strategy, Silverstone is much easier to follow and pass than Mugello I should imagine.
He couldn't keep the 2nd stint together so they pit him at L33. Lewis L42. freakish conditions anyway.
Just for balance in the force i am granting Vatteri this win so he has a bit of a confidence booster going in the other half of the season.
"Bottas said Mercedes were “sleeping” at times during the race. He started from pole position but was passed by Max Verstappen shortly after the Red Bull driver made his first pit stop. Bottas complained he’d been told to manage his pace before Verstappen appeared in his mirrors, and also said his early second pit stop left him vulnerable to Lewis Hamilton at the end of the race."


“Obviously, he’s not in a happy place that he was second and Lewis was third. But it was the learning that happened on-track when when we got Valtteri’s tyre in, we saw that actually there was a lot of rubber left, and we extended Lewis’s stint." - Wolf

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Looks like game on between RBR and Mercedes! Excellent.

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Verstappen is on fire around here, did Bottas also improve on the softs on his second run? Hamilton still looking off the pace today, no second run improvement for him either.

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Latifi faster than Vettel on the same compound.....