2020 Russian Grand Prix - Sochi Autodrom, September 25 - 27

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214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:48
How I wish it was a true meritocracy. PER wouldn’t be scratching around for a drive & HULK would still be employed.
Hulkenberg was offered the 2020 Haas drive but wanted more money IIRC.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:26
Hamilton pulls it out again.
Max showing Bottas how to maximise chances that is for sure.
Bottas should pass him on race pace easily. I don't think RedBull are running the downforce Merc is.

Vettel again. He's still cracking under pressure. That inside curb strike at medium speed is a rookie mistake. It's like his driving has gone backwards. Still not sure if he will be an upgrade on Perez driving wise.
what you're saying seems very one sided...

they say the car has inherent rear instability, which is most likely (my suspicion) due to floor not working properly, and if it is a handful under normal circumstances, which means the DF provided by the floor is coming and going "randomly", then when he got on the curb, the car was lifted and may have compromised the floor DF even more, which lead to him loosing the rear

and you can't really blame him for pushing the car in quali rather settling for 15-20th place...

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MtthsMlw wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:36
grubschumi13 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:35
Stroll completely outclassed by Perez. Poor performance by him. Mechanical issues yes but he should have been safe from his first run in Q2.
He's showing they sacked the wrong driver. Not that this wasn't know before.
hang on stroll could have won a race this year

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JordanMugen wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:50
214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:48
How I wish it was a true meritocracy. PER wouldn’t be scratching around for a drive & HULK would still be employed.
Hulkenberg was offered the 2020 Haas drive but wanted more money IIRC.
If HULK takes/had taken a Haas seat PER would probably be on the outside looking for a drive. My general point remains
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

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214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:55
JordanMugen wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:50
214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:48
How I wish it was a true meritocracy. PER wouldn’t be scratching around for a drive & HULK would still be employed.
Hulkenberg was offered the 2020 Haas drive but wanted more money IIRC.
If HULK takes/had taken a Haas seat PER would probably be on the outside looking for a drive. My general point remains
Well, which mediocre drivers do you suppose should be replaced?

Stroll is a talent, as multiple podiums show. Latifi pays the bills at Williams, so is essential. Albon took P3 in F2, so is likely somewhat competent and arguably worthy of a place in Formula One. Ocon seems to have some speed, albeit less than Ricciardo.

In all likelihood, Giovanazzi, Kvyat, and Grosjean at least will all make way for talented rookies from F2 in 2021... What more could you want than that? :)

It would be nice to have 26 cars, but Liberty's newl- imagined $200m USD entry fee for new teams makes the additional three teams exceedingly unlikely anytime soon!
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Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:49
PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:26
Hamilton pulls it out again.
Max showing Bottas how to maximise chances that is for sure.
Bottas should pass him on race pace easily. I don't think RedBull are running the downforce Merc is.

Vettel again. He's still cracking under pressure. That inside curb strike at medium speed is a rookie mistake. It's like his driving has gone backwards. Still not sure if he will be an upgrade on Perez driving wise.
Every driver was making mistake including Hamilton. Vettel's mistake turned out to be more costlier. How does it matter to RP if you are convinced if Vettel is an upgrade over Perez or not? Any driver on Perez is an improvement as he himself hasn't done anything worth noting with that RP either.
Maybe but here at the Russian GP Sergio Perez is the better driver except for 3 Max,Ham, & Bottas.

Plus if Hamilton didn't tow Max he (Perez) might have been P3.
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Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:49
PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:26
Hamilton pulls it out again.
Max showing Bottas how to maximise chances that is for sure.
Bottas should pass him on race pace easily. I don't think RedBull are running the downforce Merc is.

Vettel again. He's still cracking under pressure. That inside curb strike at medium speed is a rookie mistake. It's like his driving has gone backwards. Still not sure if he will be an upgrade on Perez driving wise.
Every driver was making mistake including Hamilton. Vettel's mistake turned out to be more costlier. How does it matter to RP if you are convinced if Vettel is an upgrade over Perez or not? Any driver on Perez is an improvement as he himself hasn't done anything worth noting with that RP either.
Vettel is the right move business wise that is easy to see but let's hope the environment brings him back to how he was prior 2017. 4XWDC spinning every odd race is not a good look. But we are used to it now.
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Vettel Will continue to spin unless they give him traction control.
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Racer X wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 16:53
Vettel Will continue to spin unless they give him traction control.
Is that what he had from 2010 to 2013?
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Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:01
Racer X wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 16:53
Vettel Will continue to spin unless they give him traction control.
Is that what he had from 2010 to 2013?
Blown diffusers are pretty close to it. :D :D
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dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:04
Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:01
Racer X wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 16:53
Vettel Will continue to spin unless they give him traction control.
Is that what he had from 2010 to 2013?
Blown diffusers are pretty close to it. :D :D
Oh. Please go ahead and explain how exactly Blown Diffusers worked like TC?
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Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:13
dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:04
Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:01
Is that what he had from 2010 to 2013?
Blown diffusers are pretty close to it. :D :D
Oh. Please go ahead and explain how exactly Blown Diffusers worked like TC?
A blown diffuser let you get on the power a lot sooner, and it's much harder to break traction because the back end is substantially more stable.
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Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:13
dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:04
Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:01
Is that what he had from 2010 to 2013?
Blown diffusers are pretty close to it. :D :D
Oh. Please go ahead and explain how exactly Blown Diffusers worked like TC?
Step on the throttle and you get more grip! :D
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214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:48
maxxer wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:44
214270 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 15:43
ALB, NOR & OCO... just not quick enough. Story all season
Well Sergio Perez is there now as free agent ...
How I wish it was a true meritocracy. PER wouldn’t be scratching around for a drive & HULK would still be employed.

None of the mentioned drivers will be replaced by PER
Ocon was very close to Perez while they were at pink india force points.

Dan the man is just too good.
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dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:40
Moore77 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:37
dans79 wrote:
26 Sep 2020, 17:18


A blown diffuser let you get on the power a lot sooner, and it's much harder to break traction because the back end is substantially more stable.
Seriously? Is that the level of understanding of blown diffuser you have?
still searching for a conflict I see.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
So for you, a system that moderates power and manages wheel spin is no different than a system that produces downforce?
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