[ 2020 ] Aston Martin RedBull Racing F1 Team - Honda

[godlameroso]

Good job for Verstappen, 2nd is better than I expected coming into the weekend, and the race pace was there'ish. Germany should be good for the RB16, the speed range and nature of the corners will suit the car. They're nice long sweepers for the most part, turn 2 will be difficult depending on how they approach it. The car likes very slow corners like turn 1 and turn 3. The hard corners for this car will be 2, 7, and 10 at least in qualifying.

[Sieper]

You can freeze frames all you want but it is so obvious Max is hitting all the kerbs while Albon just misses the apex, do you really not understand that if you drive a different line (Make the corner shorter) your exit speed can be better (in these 90 degrees corners). Even if you are at the same speed mid corner. You can also quite clearly see this in that super long corner where Max simply rides much less meters. Also, you can change the set up, but only with the parts you have on the car during the FP3, Q sessions. Been explained over and over and yet you keep riding your agenda.

Expect for the super long corners you mention all the other 90 corners, they are both hitting the kerb almost identically at same apex and exit speed, acceleration phase is where the higher kph is seen, even in braking Max isnt making much time which is usually where he excels.

F1by the numbers produced a micro sector chart that shows Max was fastest (of all) in many of the braking zone’s.

Here

https://f1bythenumbers.com/2020-russian ... ro-sector/

Please stop your false statements.

[Sayeman]

when infact I've been a Honda fan lifelong.

No you are not. You will get downvoted even more if you keep doing this.

[Marti_EF3]

Clearly 2nd was the best possible result. Merc were clearly ahead on race pace here. At least the PU worked as expected. Good job for a race it was looking worse viewing the FP sessions

[Sayeman]

What was that about Honda (Max) losing 6 tenths on the straight? They looked competent.

[bigblue]

What was that about Honda (Max) losing 6 tenths on the straight? They looked competent.

Haven't seen the race yet, but I saw that in online commentary. Is that a dig at Honda ? Or is it a consequence of aero ? Is it my imagination, or are RBR being just slightly more critical of Honda these days. It's a bit odd, as the chassis clearly has issues of its own.

[Revs84]

What was that about Honda (Max) losing 6 tenths on the straight? They looked competent.

Haven't seen the race yet, but I saw that in online commentary. Is that a dig at Honda ? Or is it a consequence of aero ? Is it my imagination, or are RBR being just slightly more critical of Honda these days. It's a bit odd, as the chassis clearly has issues of its own.

I've heard that as well but if I'm not mistaken, that was a comment by the Sky commentators.

I haven't looked at any data, but if that is true, then I guess the RB16 was very strong in corners (hinting towards more downforce than the Mercs?), as otherwise Max would probably have finished in 3rd.

Lewis pitted much earlier for the hards, mitigating the threat of closing in to Max. As for Bottas, it is not clear whether he was managing his pace, however, to me it felt like RBR had a very strong race today, especially considering that Sochi was never a good hunting ground for them.

If this is an indication of what's to come in the next races, then we might expect some good results for RBR, even more so considering that some tracks will suit them better.

[ispano6]

Clearly 2nd was the best possible result. Merc were clearly ahead on race pace here. At least the PU worked as expected. Good job for a race it was looking worse viewing the FP sessions

I actually think Max could have won if he qualified 3rd. Dirty side compromised his getaway and tow.

[godlameroso]

It's been 7 years since we last raced at the Nürburgring. 7 freaking years, Vettel was on his last year of RB domination. Pirelli tires had extra disintegration that year, and Renault was still known as Lotus and had the second fastest car.

We may get temperature in the single digits.

[Sieper]

P3 was better indeed but he was still there or thereabouts. Bottas went very deep. And Ricciardo took enormous risks. Good thing max was able to repass on the yellows while ric was on reds. Saved the P2 for him. Good job. Start run did not went his way and on this track the mercs were to good, let’s see what happens next races.

[Revs84]

At this point, Max is 77 points behind Lewis, or just over 3 race wins. When you consider that Max had 3 DNFs, it does get me to question a lot of what could have beens.

Granted that Max would not have won all 3, but even if you discount their missed chance at Silverstone, conservatively, a 2nd in Austria, a 5th in Monza and another 2nd in Mugello, could have been quite achievable, giving Max another 46 on his tally. When you consider that two of them would have caused Hamilton to lose a total of 4 points due to dropping one place, we could be looking at Max being in 2nd place and just 27 points off Lewis.

This is mostly due to Lewis getting several penalties this year, however, going into the last 7 races, the championship would still be very much wide open.

But it is what it is now, so here's hoping that both the car and Honda keep getting better so they can mount a real challenge in 2021.

[Sieper]

Yep, they need to close in further and then be there next year. I know, that was the plan for this year but Merc made a big jump in performance and Max indeed has 3 DNFs that shouldn’t have happened. But both were due to changing circumstances. First the belated season start on a different spec and second the mid season rule change.

[MtthsMlw]

Two pit stops today under 1,9s. 1.86s and 1.89s

[Sieper]

And in Max’ pitstop they also adjusted the FW.

[godlameroso]

Looks like developments introduced in Mugello have helped improve the car.

I fully expected them to struggle here like in Italy. The nature of the corners are very similar. Next race the corners resemble Mugello, very long sweepers.

I said that the gap between Verstappen and Albon would be higher here because the speed range of the corners is in a place the car doesn't like. Lots of entry oversteer.

Nurburgring will be very different Albon will be closer.

The biggest shame about this season is the fact there are no Asian rounds. The RB16 would have been mighty around Suzuka.