2021 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, June 04 - 06

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914hald wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 22:51
PlatinumZealot wrote:
04 Jun 2021, 21:35

Look at this comment from Toto below. Merc basically has one arm tied behind the back! No way to compete. Another Freebie for RedBull (the fastest car by a mile now).
So every Merc fans shout out that Redbull is faster even though when a race with hard compunds coming around Merc is clearly faster and then its suddently a surprise.
2 races with softes compund and low speed corners, its the end of the world :lol: .

Redbull seem to be fastest on softer compund tires, and Merc on the harder.

Merc have been top of the class on hard compund since Hybrid era and it seem to be why they are 7 time WC
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

Likewise, if you are accustomed to domination, then equal cars that eb and flow depending on the circuit feels like an unfair disadvantage.

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Redbull is the best car to have this year. You need a car that works at every track and the RB16 is that car. Mercedes car has fatal flaws. The RB16 is the most consistent car to have this year. It guaranteed 2nd row on every track.
I dont think Mercedes have a chance at podium on pace tomorrow. Some crashing will need to take place.
Lewis needs to hold on to be within 20 points of Max by midseaon at least. This year is Redbull's to lose.
For Sure!!

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Kingshark wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 03:57
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

Likewise, if you are accustomed to domination, then equal cars that eb and flow depending on the circuit feels like an unfair disadvantage.
Ferrari and VET led championships later in the season and by greater margins than what RBR has right now in both 2017 and 2018.

The question of which car would perform better circuit-by-circuit was a weekly occurrence, just like it is now.

Even in the middle of 2019, Ferrari was out-qualifying the W10 at every power circuit, and then the Mercs had to battle to the front during the race.

So, for Merc fans in the hybrid era, this is nothing new. Were you following F1 those seasons (asking genuinely, not sarcastically)?

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I HEARD ferrari will change engine. True?

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zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 07:50
Kingshark wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 03:57
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

Likewise, if you are accustomed to domination, then equal cars that eb and flow depending on the circuit feels like an unfair disadvantage.
Ferrari and VET led championships later in the season and by greater margins than what RBR has right now in both 2017 and 2018.

The question of which car would perform better circuit-by-circuit was a weekly occurrence, just like it is now.

Even in the middle of 2019, Ferrari was out-qualifying the W10 at every power circuit, and then the Mercs had to battle to the front during the race.

So, for Merc fans in the hybrid era, this is nothing new. Were you following F1 those seasons (asking genuinely, not sarcastically)?
I think many people white wash 2014-2020 as complete Mercedes dominance and forget what actually happened in 2017,2018 and 2019

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Pany wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:22
I HEARD ferrari will change engine. True?
Yes, all the Ferrari teams drove yesterday with a new PU.
The Power of Dreams!

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Starkblood80 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:42
zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 07:50
Kingshark wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 03:57
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

Likewise, if you are accustomed to domination, then equal cars that eb and flow depending on the circuit feels like an unfair disadvantage.
Ferrari and VET led championships later in the season and by greater margins than what RBR has right now in both 2017 and 2018.

The question of which car would perform better circuit-by-circuit was a weekly occurrence, just like it is now.

Even in the middle of 2019, Ferrari was out-qualifying the W10 at every power circuit, and then the Mercs had to battle to the front during the race.

So, for Merc fans in the hybrid era, this is nothing new. Were you following F1 those seasons (asking genuinely, not sarcastically)?
I think many people white wash 2014-2020 as complete Mercedes dominance and forget what actually happened in 2017,2018 and 2019
I agree. And it's kind of disrespectful toward both Ferrari and Mercedes those years.

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Wouter wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:44
Pany wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:22
I HEARD ferrari will change engine. True?
Yes, all the Ferrari teams drove yesterday with a new PU.
All the Honda-powered teams are supposedly getting their 2nd PUs (of identical specification to the first) today.

SirBastianVettel
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I wonder if Mercedes might switch to a lower down-force rear wing for FP3 today.

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Starkblood80 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:42
zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 07:50
Kingshark wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 03:57
When you are accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.

Likewise, if you are accustomed to domination, then equal cars that eb and flow depending on the circuit feels like an unfair disadvantage.
Ferrari and VET led championships later in the season and by greater margins than what RBR has right now in both 2017 and 2018.

The question of which car would perform better circuit-by-circuit was a weekly occurrence, just like it is now.

Even in the middle of 2019, Ferrari was out-qualifying the W10 at every power circuit, and then the Mercs had to battle to the front during the race.

So, for Merc fans in the hybrid era, this is nothing new. Were you following F1 those seasons (asking genuinely, not sarcastically)?
I think many people white wash 2014-2020 as complete Mercedes dominance and forget what actually happened in 2017,2018 and 2019
Agree 100%

zibby43
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Interesting development.


TimW
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I don't understand why people write off Mercedes. They seem to have best long run pace, on a circuit where it is easy to overtake, and may well have best tire wear. Many unknowns still, but they could certainly win, even dominant.

Monday's headlines could be anything from "youngsters take over f1, Hamilton past his prime" up to "Superb win from Hamilton in inferior car"

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zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 09:19
Interesting development.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 41314?s=20
I guess that is bad news for Mercedes, makes the warm-up even worse?

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TimW wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 09:22
zibby43 wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 09:19
Interesting development.

https://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 41314?s=20
I guess that is bad news for Mercedes, makes the warm-up even worse?
In the past, higher pressures have caused Mercedes to *over-heat* the tires, as the contact patch is reduced with higher inflation. 70th Anniversary GP 2020 comes to mind.

Will be interesting to see what effect this has. The teams already getting the tires up to speed quickly will have to worry about over-heating the rears now.

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Pany wrote:
05 Jun 2021, 08:22
I HEARD ferrari will change engine. True?
They will use new engines. My understanding is that it's normal, since all Ferrari powered cars will have new units.
IIRC Mercedes too