Points system to be scrapped for 2009

[dumrick]

I think if we're going to do the WDC this way, we should just scrap points all together. The constructors will be determined by # of team wins. For both, in the event of a tie, you shouldn't go to a back up points tally. Instead they should just set up a giant cage at the start/finish line of the last race & have an mixed martial arts throw down. 5 rounds of 5 min each I say. And the bonus is that you can even charge more for that race if you get a triple bill. I mean, c'mon, who wouldn't want to see Ross Brawn & Martin Whitmarsh cage fight for the constructors title?

Watch out what you wish for, that you may ending getting it...

Why not making WDC the driver with more... let's say 5th places? That would make the battle a lot closer, given that the guys in front would want to be overtaken! Lots of overtaking in prospect and a lot more drivers fighting for the title...

[zgred]

I think if we're going to do the WDC this way, we should just scrap points all together. The constructors will be determined by # of team wins. For both, in the event of a tie, you shouldn't go to a back up points tally. Instead they should just set up a giant cage at the start/finish line of the last race & have an mixed martial arts throw down. 5 rounds of 5 min each I say. And the bonus is that you can even charge more for that race if you get a triple bill. I mean, c'mon, who wouldn't want to see Ross Brawn & Martin Whitmarsh cage fight for the constructors title?

Watch out what you wish for, that you may ending getting it...

Why not making WDC the driver with more... let's say 5th places? That would make the battle a lot closer, given that the guys in front would want to be overtaken! Lots of overtaking in prospect and a lot more drivers fighting for the title...

Let’s go even further – 1st place max points for Construction Championships but lowest score for Driver. Max points for the driver while You are 8th on the finish line and only one point for Constructors. How thrilling is that while You get nothing for being 9th. How big drama while You want to be a World Champion and your team have opposite goal. This will suit Flavio Briatore quotation about F1 :]

[timbo]

I think if we're going to do the WDC this way, we should just scrap points all together. The constructors will be determined by # of team wins. For both, in the event of a tie, you shouldn't go to a back up points tally. Instead they should just set up a giant cage at the start/finish line of the last race & have an mixed martial arts throw down. 5 rounds of 5 min each I say. And the bonus is that you can even charge more for that race if you get a triple bill. I mean, c'mon, who wouldn't want to see Ross Brawn & Martin Whitmarsh cage fight for the constructors title?

Watch out what you wish for, that you may ending getting it...

Why not making WDC the driver with more... let's say 5th places? That would make the battle a lot closer, given that the guys in front would want to be overtaken! Lots of overtaking in prospect and a lot more drivers fighting for the title...

Let’s go even further – 1st place max points for Construction Championships but lowest score for Driver. Max points for the driver while You are 8th on the finish line and only one point for Constructors. How thrilling is that while You get nothing for being 9th. How big drama while You want to be a World Champion and your team have opposite goal. This will suit Flavio Briatore quotation about F1 :]

C'mon guys!
The best way to decide WDC and WCC is SMS voting! $1 per SMS!
Teams get 30%, FOM gets 70%!

[natef1]

C'mon guys!
The best way to decide WDC and WCC is SMS voting! $1 per SMS!
Teams get 30%, FOM gets 70%!

Yes, and we can get all the drivers to have a dancing competition followed by a talent contest consisting of Alonso juggling some oranges, Kimi downing shots and Nick Heidfeld telling jokes.

Then, like Red Nose day, FOM can organise a F1 Hat day, where everybody buys whacky F1-car shaped hats and generously donates money to Bernie.

Should work out.

[Metar]

That is, from the 1% the cellphone providers leave them. :p

[nae]

Why not making WDC the driver with more... let's say 5th places? That would make the battle a lot closer, given that the guys in front would want to be overtaken! Lots of overtaking in prospect and a lot more drivers fighting for the title...

dont let max here that ffs

best idea i have read today all the same

[tk421]

Why not making WDC the driver with more... let's say 5th places?

That's exactly what the 2007 championship would have come down to if Kimi finished any lower than first in Brazil. Alonso and Hamilton were tied in 1st places, 2nd places, 3rd places, and 4th places. Lewis had one more 5th place finish and would have won the title based on that, as I said if Kimi didn't win the Brazilian GP. I know your proposal has a different meaning, but I thought it was worth noting...

[Spencifer_Murphy]

The whole proposal is stupid.

I understand the logic behind it, you want to see drivers racing for wins...but why try to artificially make this happen?

People critisize Lewis Hamilton for "over racing" but then this is encourages with these new regs...which one's it gonna be? It can't be both!

NO SPORTING SEASON that I can think of (I say season as opposed to a tournament such as the Olympics, World Cup etc.) is run in this way...so to my mind F1 no longer has the right to call its yearly battle the FIA Formula One World Championship SEASON. It should now the FIA Formula One World Championship TOURNAMENT.

But all of that PALES IN COMPARISION WITH THIS:
Why bother doing a fan survey and then ignoring the fans?!
(And no ISLAMATRON the majority of the fans surveyed are not idiots - the majority are subscribers from around the world to F1racing Magazine [which helps runthe sirvey for the FIA allong with AMD], which happens to be the worlds best selling F1 mag. They should then be fairly clued up on whats going on...no casual fan subscribes to a mag like that...too much financial outlay for a casual observer.)

Basically we're constantly being told that F1 has to improve for THE FANS. So the fan survey is setup and results they disagree with are ignored. Oh well C'est La Vie...

..except it's not because of the REASON this is ignored. The reason is, is that new and/or casual observers want to see racing from start to finish (like a horse race or the 100m sprint) it allows their minds to stay interested for the duration (how many people do you know who watch the 100m final at the Olympics, now compare this to the number you know who watch the 10,000m final or the Marathon to get my point)

This means the sport is more valuable to sponsors as the target audience has increased due to this blatent "dumbing down" of the game. This in turn means the decision to to implement this new system is TOTALLY driven by MONEY. (as I'm sure the previous joke posts about SMS voting are alluding to...and if thery're not, oh well, its works out nicely! )

And THAT, frankly, is DISGUSTING. I would mind too much if the fans had voted for this, but its clearly done for Financial Gians for those who hold the purse strings. In short the FIA has sold out.

With this, F1 has added fuel to the argument that "F1 is a business first, and a Sport last". While I accept that in all sports, money rules, (more money = more rescources, better players etc) you don't see the rules of Football, for example, changing for the financial gain of the respective Football Association.

The FIA should be embarrassed. [-X

[gcdugas]

One word.... Spa

[Spencifer_Murphy]

3 words:

Can Of Worms!

[twoshots]

This means the sport is more valuable to sponsors as the target audience has increased due to this blatent "dumbing down" of the game. This in turn means the decision to to implement this new system is TOTALLY driven by MONEY.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about Twenty20 cricket

I am beginning to think Bernie has gone totally senile though. His ideas seem more and more bizarre. Before he was probably one the more abrasive characters in F1 (which wouldn't be an issue if he didn't hold as much power as he does) but now he's abrasive and senile

[alelanza]

People are on the ball with the way the new engine rules mix with this points system, it's terrible! A not quite #1 team could pick tracks where they excel at and throw engines at them. Combined with the other great idea about budget capping you could also throw all your budget at those races, so the championship would be decided by who gambled their tracks better. And how about second place? so you promote winning, which would probably be something 2nd place in wins fought for, but what if 3rd place in wins had more points due to being more constant than 2nd place in wins? You would effectively penalize someone who went for the 'winning is everything' idea but came up short to 1st place.
What about someone fighting for WDC that had a bad quali, ie LH in Monza. While there's the WCC, as it's been said that takes a lesser spot, so now that driver and team have their WCC motivation conflicting with WDC as that it's better to simply 'spin it out and stall it' in order to save the engine and fight another day. So now they have effectively made it so that the WCC and WDC are in conflict with each other, way to go! not to mention that the good old fight from the back of the grid, which was already an unlikely event, will be even more of a rare thing.
This means you will have Sundays where one team is going for it while another one is just saving up.
12-9-6-5 etc. system would work for me. If bernie says drivers don't fight for wins, then he probably missed KR vs LH at Spa, or maybe he chose to forget the slow @$$ response of the stewards in that race?
Not to mention that they did the whole new aero rules+KERS to improve overtaking, which duh hints at the fact that the issue with overtaking is at a hardware level. But no, less than two weeks before first race they 'realize' it was the drivers not wanting to win. So which is it, make up your mind ffs!!!
Like others, i was really looking forward to this season. 'Was' being the keyword, i'll still watch but with a lot less interest, unless i somehow become interested on 'who's flunking this race' vs 'who's going for it'. Doubt it...

[Scotracer]

Don't know if it's been posted but:

PETITION AGAINST THIS

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/cancel ... nship-2009

Show them the real voice of F1 fans; that their market "research" was a farce.

[WhiteBlue]

I don't think that this new rule about the championship will make a big difference. Perhaps it will skew team and driver strategy at the very top slightly towards more risky strategies but at the bottom line they will go for points in most cases. It looks like a neat compromise for me that lets Bernie keep face in exchange for Max getting his rules on cost cutting and new teams.

[lkocev]

I think this is a complete disgrace, a complete joke and against what racing is all about. I really don't know where that Bernie dusch bag gets these ideas, because this one is really shithouse. Why would they change a scoring system that has been working completly OK scince the sport was created?

Racing is not just about going for the win where ever you can, its about finding a way to collect the most points, some times a driver is not going to be able to finish always on the top step of the podium, so then he finds a way to get as close as possible to the top step.

The biggest problem I have with this is that it won't reward the drivers for being conservative at the times they need to be conservative. I dont understand how 9 wins and 9 DNF's (90pts) could possibly be better than 6 wins, 6 3rd's and 6 DNF's (96pts). I could go on about a heap of other point scoring situations where the driver with most wins could easily score less points than another, but I dont want to bore everyone here. Years ago they changed the scoring system a bit, so that teams who were more consistent could win constructors' and drivers' championships, now when they think teams and drivers are being too conservative, they slap this band-aid bullshit on... What a joke!

The main thing is its a --- scoring system, this is not the f##king olympics, no faggy, jerk-off medals should be a scoring system in F1. Frankly I'm furious and depressed that the FIA would allow it. [-X