2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Never gonna be a racing incident where 1 of the 2 championship contenders crashes

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El Scorchio wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:34
nzjrs wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:26
I think the FIA has been trending towards consequence based penalties for a while, so I'd expect a penalty here.

(Not my position, just and observation)
I wouldn’t be surprised either. If it was a concrete run off area with ‘just’ a pirouette then there might not be one at all. Purely because this was so spectacular it might be seen differently.
Yes I agree. A big spectacular crash, and WDC contenders so they will apply the maximum penalty. The FIA are consistently inconsistent.

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Mogster wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:17
Would Max have even made the corner?
Yes, easily.

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djones wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:30
Otmar "it was a racing incident"

How many more people need to say this for the Max fans to realise it's not Hamilton at fault #-o
Why should anyone care what you or Otmar thinks?. When all the evidence is on the onboard cameras. Unless ofcourse you block your sight, you can clearly see that Hamilton understeers and misses the whole apex, literally had a car width and some more on the inside and still understeered. Max was ahead, so Hamilton hits the rear tyre.
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Was a red flag really necessary?
I makes huge impacts on race results.

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sosic2121 wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:39
Was a red flag really necessary?
I makes huge impacts on race results.
They needed to repair the barrier so no choice really.

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Wow 51G accident

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Juzh wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:36
Can leclerc hold hamilton off for more than a single drs attack? Don't think so. If he survives a restart it's already a miracle.
You'd think Lewis will be able to pass Charles on the straight somewhere. He won't be nearly so forceful against Charles as Charles has nothing to lose and Lewis has a lot to lose.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:39
Mattyw wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:37
Never gonna be a racing incident where 1 of the 2 championship contenders crashes
It's either a racing incident or it isn't. Who is driving the cars shouldn't make any difference.
Well it’s what they decide but I can’t see how they can say ‘ok racing incident’ where 1 of the 2 contenders has lost out as a result - they will try and find a ‘balance’ with a penalty, somehow!

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proteus wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:34
dans79 wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:30
proteus wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:24


He was alongside and he hit his rear tyre.

To me alongside means front wheel along front wheel.
That's not what the rules say. I can't remember the specific rule off the top of my head but if any part of your car is alongside you are entitled to space. so if your front Wing is a long his back tire you're entitled to space
If he is in your blind spot, how are you supposed to see him?
They showed Max's on board, he turned, and then straightened out, and then turned in again.

That pretty much guarantees that he knew Lewis was there.
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Diesel wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:41
sosic2121 wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:39
Was a red flag really necessary?
I makes huge impacts on race results.
They needed to repair the barrier so no choice really.
Couldn't it be done behind a SC?

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Is it a standing restart or a rolling restart?

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dans79 wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:37
GOAT wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:33
Hoffman900 wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:27
Instead he pushes Lewis right, swings left, and then dives into the apex.
What? Max dives into the apex?
Seriously?!

Max leaves like a Grand Canyon of space on the inside for Lewis..

Lewis isn’t able to put his car on the apex and therefor hits Max- 100% Lewis to blame, he took the risk of crashing out.
From the overhead view they showed on sky pad at the point of impact there was room, but Max was still aiming for the Apex.
Watched the same thing but without steering into the corner eventually he would have never made the corner. He clearly knew HAM was there by reducing the angle but he has to turn in at some stage. It’s extremely high speed. Could he have done it a fraction later? Maybe but at serious risk of a) not making the corner at all b) damaging the car on the curb.

One thing is for sure is that HAM was not yielding ANY space. So together they are to blame but the inside car had way more opportunity to avoid the touch.

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Horner briefing everyone who'll listen that Lewis almost tried to kill Max (yes, he didn't say that but that's what his emotional words are inferring).
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Diesel wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:38
El Scorchio wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:34
nzjrs wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:26
I think the FIA has been trending towards consequence based penalties for a while, so I'd expect a penalty here.

(Not my position, just and observation)
I wouldn’t be surprised either. If it was a concrete run off area with ‘just’ a pirouette then there might not be one at all. Purely because this was so spectacular it might be seen differently.
Yes I agree. A big spectacular crash, and WDC contenders so they will apply the maximum penalty. The FIA are consistently inconsistent.
Russell got a penalty for something similar, put down as causing a colison with Sainz when he locked up and understeeered into him at Brooklands, plenty of space on the inside, Sainz gave him plenty of room.

I say let's just wait til' Mazepin or Stroll does it to one of these British drivers, then perhaps the conversation of causing collisions will be treated with respect rather than just shoe-horning "racing incident" everywhere. Raikonnen collides with Vettel racing side-by-side, not a racing incident, but this ofcourse, and forcing driver's off-track if your name is Norris, is.
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