2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 - 18

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:44
Mattyw wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:41
Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:39


It's either a racing incident or it isn't. Who is driving the cars shouldn't make any difference.
Well it’s what they decide but I can’t see how they can say ‘ok racing incident’ where 1 of the 2 contenders has lost out as a result - they will try and find a ‘balance’ with a penalty, somehow!
Why? That one of the contenders is out doesn't make any difference. Either it's a racing incident or it isn't, either it's a penalty or it isn't. Title standings are irrelevant. If a driver does it on purpose, penalise them. If it's an accident / incident then don't.
In theory sure, however my feeling is that the FIA has been adjudicating penalties based on their consequences for a little while now. So on that trend I would expect a penalty here.

(Not my position, just my observation)

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Mr.S wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:44
Chandok was reviewing the incident from both Max & Lewis' viewpoints. Max actually went a little wide @ Cobbs to give Lewis cars space while Lewis was nowhere the apex & wasn't even trying to take that line. He was taking a much more central line.

And Max was clearly ahead all the way ! Nowhere was Lewis for even 1 bit during that corner. Real shame what happened.
Cobbs?

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El Scorchio wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:45
Diesel wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:43
Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:42
Horner briefing everyone who'll listen that Lewis almost tried to kill Max (yes, he didn't say that but that's what his emotional words are inferring).
I'm surprised he hasn't called the police in to arrest Lewis, he's laying it on very thick.
And if it were the other way round he’d say racing incident.
If it was the other way round, he'd say Lewis turned in on him trying to force Max in to the wall. :lol:
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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:42
Horner briefing everyone who'll listen that Lewis almost tried to kill Max (yes, he didn't say that but that's what his emotional words are inferring).
Yea & Toto is going on ridiculous rants about tyre line & this & that when his driver is @ fault.

Red Bull lost millions here, the car is done. That shouldn't decide the penalty but it happened on a much higher speed section. Verstappen could have seriously been hurt & that is not deniable but so could Lewis. Which is why Hamilton's intentional/non-intentional grave mistake should have a serious penalty to dissuade such intentional punts in high speed areas !

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:44
Mattyw wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:41
Just_a_fan wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:39


It's either a racing incident or it isn't. Who is driving the cars shouldn't make any difference.
Well it’s what they decide but I can’t see how they can say ‘ok racing incident’ where 1 of the 2 contenders has lost out as a result - they will try and find a ‘balance’ with a penalty, somehow!
Why? That one of the contenders is out doesn't make any difference. Either it's a racing incident or it isn't, either it's a penalty or it isn't. Title standings are irrelevant. If a driver does it on purpose, penalise them. If it's an accident / incident then don't.
I completely agree with you, I’m saying how I think the stewards will deal with it.

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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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10 second time penalty. Fair enough.

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Spacepace wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:47
Mr.S wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:44
Chandok was reviewing the incident from both Max & Lewis' viewpoints. Max actually went a little wide @ Cobbs to give Lewis cars space while Lewis was nowhere the apex & wasn't even trying to take that line. He was taking a much more central line.

And Max was clearly ahead all the way ! Nowhere was Lewis for even 1 bit during that corner. Real shame what happened.
Cobbs?
Copse* Autocorrect !

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mertol wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:46
Hamilton did this on purpose. What other purpose could this move have? This is not a passing opportunity and it's followed by a series of more ultra high speed turns where you can't pass either. Also he was catching him better than with DRS. Investigate mercedes engine when?
Wow. Just wow. :shock:
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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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BS penalty. Just 10 seconds? It was worth a race ban.
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I think that is actually the right penalty. Fair play to the stewards

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El Scorchio wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:48
10 second time penalty. Fair enough.
That's bollocks.
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Re: 2021 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 16 -18

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Ricciardo with smokes...oh oh

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Ryar wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:49
BS penalty. Just 10 seconds? It was worth a race ban.
On what grounds, when you compare it to other such incidents?

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Ryar wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:49
BS penalty. Just 10 seconds? It was worth a race ban.
Come on man, that's nothing near a race ban.

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Diesel wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:45
politburo wrote:
18 Jul 2021, 16:42
Russell got a penalty for something similar, put down as causing a colison with Sainz when he locked up and understeeered into him at Brooklands, plenty of space on the inside, Sainz gave him plenty of room.

I say let's just wait til' Mazepin or Stroll does it to one of these British drivers, then perhaps the conversation of causing collisions will be treated with respect rather than just shoe-horning "racing incident" everywhere. Raikonnen collides with Vettel racing side-by-side, not a racing incident, but this ofcourse, and forcing driver's off-track if your name is Norris, is.
I'm not sure why you are directing this at me, I said Hamilton would get a penalty. I have at no point said it was a racing incident. Give your head a wobble.
It's a general comment, the consensus here seems to be the racing incident nonsense. Let's wait til' it's Mazepin or Stroll drivers who are hated then we can have an honest conversation.
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