2021 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort Sept 3 - 5

[codetower]

SO neither HAAS will be penalised for impeding Vettel. Wow

They probably figured “What are we going to do? Give em a 5 place grid penalty? Start em 24th and 25th?”

I did think maybe penalty points would come. Doesn’t appear to be though.

[Viper2789]

Great Qualy session!

Anyone else literally have their heart in their mouth when we went onboard for T3?

2 Mercs vs Max is gonna be tricky for RB, even more so on a track where you can't overtake.

Mercs are usually ridiculous on tyre deg. I expect Max to pit and Lewis to go long with a Bottas roadblock at some point.

Can be bet on which drivers are gonna cause a red flag?

Mazepin, Tsunoda...


Be interesting to see Perez's strategy tomorrow!

[NathanOlder]

SO neither HAAS will be penalised for impeding Vettel. Wow

They probably figured “What are we going to do? Give em a 5 place grid penalty? Start em 24th and 25th?”

I did think maybe penalty points would come. Doesn’t appear to be though.

Trouble is now in future races, if the same happens, it can't or shouldn't be punished. If a redbull did it to a Mercedes or vice versa then all hell will break loose

[DChemTech]

SO neither HAAS will be penalised for impeding Vettel. Wow

They probably figured “What are we going to do? Give em a 5 place grid penalty? Start em 24th and 25th?”

I did think maybe penalty points would come. Doesn’t appear to be though.

Throw them into the sea for a bit of a cooldown

[codetower]

SO neither HAAS will be penalised for impeding Vettel. Wow

They probably figured “What are we going to do? Give em a 5 place grid penalty? Start em 24th and 25th?”

I did think maybe penalty points would come. Doesn’t appear to be though.

Trouble is now in future races, if the same happens, it can't or shouldn't be punished. If a redbull did it to a Mercedes or vice versa then all hell will break loose

100% agree. Ive been in agreement with pretty much most of their decisions so far, even the unpopular ones, i understood the reasoning. This one I think was the wrong decision because of the precedent is sets.

On a different topic. Anyone know the new/used tyre allocations left per driver?

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On a different topic. Anyone know the new/used tyre allocations left per driver?

Mercedes has 1 new H, 1 new M, 1 used M, 3 used* S
everyone else in the Top 10 has 1 new H, 1 new M, 4 used* S

*partly just one lap on them, from when Q2 was red-flagged

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https://the-race.com/formula-1/verstapp ... t-lap-due/

[BlueCheetah66]

Great Qualy session!

Anyone else literally have their heart in their mouth when we went onboard for T3?

2 Mercs vs Max is gonna be tricky for RB, even more so on a track where you can't overtake.

Mercs are usually ridiculous on tyre deg. I expect Max to pit and Lewis to go long with a Bottas roadblock at some point.

Can be bet on which drivers are gonna cause a red flag?

Mazepin, Tsunoda...


Be interesting to see Perez's strategy tomorrow!

Perez could have been so useful for Red Bull with his ability to go long. They will probably be relying on either Gasly or one of the Ferraris to jump Bottas at the start.

[nokivasara]

Great Qualy session!

Anyone else literally have their heart in their mouth when we went onboard for T3?

2 Mercs vs Max is gonna be tricky for RB, even more so on a track where you can't overtake.

Mercs are usually ridiculous on tyre deg. I expect Max to pit and Lewis to go long with a Bottas roadblock at some point.

Can be bet on which drivers are gonna cause a red flag?

Mazepin, Tsunoda...


Be interesting to see Perez's strategy tomorrow!

T3 was hairy every single time I saw it from the onboard camera!

Great quali from GIO, fastest of them all in four minisectors

[ispano6]

He will be more than a pitstop behind after 20 laps easy

Since Perez is starting from pitlane maybe he can avoid chaos at the start. And maybe Alonso can block Hamilton long enough to help out Max

[Mogster]

Great Qualy session!

Anyone else literally have their heart in their mouth when we went onboard for T3?

2 Mercs vs Max is gonna be tricky for RB, even more so on a track where you can't overtake.

Mercs are usually ridiculous on tyre deg. I expect Max to pit and Lewis to go long with a Bottas roadblock at some point.

Can be bet on which drivers are gonna cause a red flag?

Mazepin, Tsunoda...


Be interesting to see Perez's strategy tomorrow!

Perez could have been so useful for Red Bull with his ability to go long. They will probably be relying on either Gasly or one of the Ferraris to jump Bottas at the start.

So everyone is OK with Horner appearing to operate a 4 car team? Imagine if Merc were in a similar situation and Toto was referring to Lando in the similar way Horner is Gasly. “It’s OK Bottas is starting at the back but we have Lando in the mix”. It’d break the internet…

Just a thought.

[the EDGE]

So everyone is OK with Horner appearing to operate a 4 car team? Imagine if Merc were in a similar situation and Toto was referring to Lando in the similar way Horner is Gasly. “It’s OK Bottas is starting at the back but we have Lando in the mix”. It’d break the internet…

Just a thought.

I’ve never had any reason to suspect RB & AT collaborate on strategy

[Mogster]

So everyone is OK with Horner appearing to operate a 4 car team? Imagine if Merc were in a similar situation and Toto was referring to Lando in the similar way Horner is Gasly. “It’s OK Bottas is starting at the back but we have Lando in the mix”. It’d break the internet…

Just a thought.

I’ve never had any reason to suspect RB & AT collaborate on strategy

That’s what Horner’s suggesting though isn’t it?

[langedweil]

So everyone is OK with Horner appearing to operate a 4 car team? Imagine if Merc were in a similar situation and Toto was referring to Lando in the similar way Horner is Gasly. “It’s OK Bottas is starting at the back but we have Lando in the mix”. It’d break the internet…

Just a thought.

I’ve never had any reason to suspect RB & AT collaborate on strategy

That’s what Horner’s suggesting though isn’t it?

Isn't merely that Gasly is close to Bot, and so are the Fer's ?
And whether it's Gas, Lec, Sai, Ric that jumps Bot .. anyone will be fine.

[PlatinumZealot]

If only we could have Lewis and Max in the same car for a season so that all these "expert" discussions on who is extracting more from the car could end. The truth is we might never know for sure. Trying to compare Lewis vs Max by comparing them against other drivers just leads nowhere. By that logic, Lando is much faster than Max because he is beating Ricciardo with a much bigger margin than Max did in their last year together. He was also not as dominant against Sainz in their 2015/2016 seasons certainly not more that Leclerc is now. It is all speculation, we are watching a team sport where the besta combination of car/driver is going to have the best chance of winning. Nothing more than that.

Lando knows how to drive his McLaren better than Danny does. However, if it so happens that Danny cannot drive a certain style of car, i would say Norris is all round better racer and probably more talented, but I wouldn't say Norris is quicker. If they both can somehow tune their cars exactly how they want then that is where you decide who is quicker.

As for Max, we will never know how he performs against peak Lewis even in the same car because let's face it, Lewis is 36 years old.

As a fan of the sport, I have no desire to see who is "better" because they are from different eras and Lewis has nothing to prove really. He already did his work and achieved his dreams when Max was still playing with powe rangers.

It would be unfair for Lewis to now put them in the same cars, and it would also do disservice to Max.

Max's real rivals are Lando, Charles, Carlos, Russell, Ocon and Stroll.