2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
NathanOlder
48
Joined: 02 Mar 2012, 10:05
Location: Kent

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Wow, strange results there. Norris if he didnt have his lap deleted would have been ahead of Max by a few tenths , on a harder tyre!
GoLandoGo
Lewis v2.0
King George has arrived.

New found love for GT racing with Assetto Corsa Competizione on PS5 & PC

Just_a_fan
Just_a_fan
593
Joined: 31 Jan 2010, 20:37

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Is 4.5 tenths realistic between Lewis and Max, especially with Max being on the softer tyre? If the Merc is actually that much faster then the race ought to be easy for him. Seems unlikely, however.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

Mr.S
Mr.S
0
Joined: 09 Apr 2011, 18:21

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Verstappen will be very happy to be P2 @ the end of the race in Monza when Mercedes has comfortably the best PU & the best car of most of the season (except Baku, Monaco & the 2 Austrian Races), Mercedes have been roughly equal or better than RB in race pace !

So I guess P2 should be good enough. Mercedes should aim for a 1-2 which will give Hamilton some extra points vs Verstappen !

User avatar
NathanOlder
48
Joined: 02 Mar 2012, 10:05
Location: Kent

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Hoffman900 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:31
Just_a_fan wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:18
Silly question time - is it perhaps better not to be on pole for the start of the sprint thingy? It's a very long run down to T1 - a tow behind the pole sitter might be better than being the pole sitter punching the the hole in the air. Then taking P1 in to the first chicane. Or is that me overthinking it?
Depends.

These cars are so wide, and T1 so narrow, that the front row will effectively block things, assuming P2 gets off as good as P1 and P3/4.

Something like a Formula Ford or something, for sure.
Yeah, from pole, if you get the initial launch right, you just move over to the right and block the inside. Your'e more safe on the inside from a rear end or t-bone situation. The run isn't anything like the run to turn 1 (turn2) in Sochi. So pole is the way to go.
GoLandoGo
Lewis v2.0
King George has arrived.

New found love for GT racing with Assetto Corsa Competizione on PS5 & PC

Just_a_fan
Just_a_fan
593
Joined: 31 Jan 2010, 20:37

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

nimoraca wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:29
We got a bit of a glimpse of a mess we can probably expect at the end of q3.
The sensible thing to do is to just go out and do your lap sooner. Getting in a decent clear lap might not be quite so good as getting a tow, but if everyone is tripping over each other, they are just as likely to not do so well anyway.
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

Starkblood80
Starkblood80
0
Joined: 04 Jul 2020, 19:42

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Mr.S wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:34
Verstappen will be very happy to be P2 @ the end of the race in Monza when Mercedes has comfortably the best PU & the best car of most of the season (except Baku, Monaco & the 2 Austrian Races), Mercedes have been roughly equal or better than RB in race pace !

So I guess P2 should be good enough. Mercedes should aim for a 1-2 which will give Hamilton some extra points vs Verstappen !
Mercedes have the best car? Not sure which season you’ve been watching.

User avatar
yelistener
5
Joined: 25 Aug 2018, 03:55

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

2019 Q3 or 2020 Q1 happening again today?

Last year W11 was too dominating, so Mercedes in Q3 could afford getting Bottas out first with him still comfortably securing P2 without a tow. That's the main reason why Q3 went smoothly. This year it's obviously a lot different and I wonder if there'll be a ballsy team to do the same, to get one of their drivers out first, because if not, one of the quali sessions (if not all of them lol) will be in trouble.
Last edited by yelistener on 10 Sep 2021, 15:41, edited 4 times in total.

Hoffman900
Hoffman900
211
Joined: 13 Oct 2019, 03:02

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

grubschumi13 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:38
Wow, the Mercs cars are unbeatable. This like most races this season is theirs to lose.
Well, anything can happen in racing. That’s why we watch.

Mr.S
Mr.S
0
Joined: 09 Apr 2011, 18:21

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Starkblood80 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:36
Mr.S wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:34
Verstappen will be very happy to be P2 @ the end of the race in Monza when Mercedes has comfortably the best PU & the best car of most of the season (except Baku, Monaco & the 2 Austrian Races), Mercedes have been roughly equal or better than RB in race pace !

So I guess P2 should be good enough. Mercedes should aim for a 1-2 which will give Hamilton some extra points vs Verstappen !
Mercedes have the best car? Not sure which season you’ve been watching.
I would say they were on par with RB at-least. Mercedes had the better race pace car in atleast 3 of the 4 races & probably tied with RB in Bahrain. And better in Silverstone, Hungary. Tied in France & Netherlands.

RB ahead in Baku, Monaco & the 2 Austrian races !

It is 50-50 at best or Mercedes ahead. They surely have the best car in Monza & Sochi with their PU which is quite ahead of everyone else.

User avatar
_cerber1
261
Joined: 18 Jan 2019, 21:50
Location: From Russia with love

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Image

User avatar
WaikeCU
14
Joined: 14 May 2014, 00:03

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Red Bull sandbag with tuned down engine I reckon. Typical Friday stuff.

User avatar
NathanOlder
48
Joined: 02 Mar 2012, 10:05
Location: Kent

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Starkblood80 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:36
Mr.S wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:34
Verstappen will be very happy to be P2 @ the end of the race in Monza when Mercedes has comfortably the best PU & the best car of most of the season (except Baku, Monaco & the 2 Austrian Races), Mercedes have been roughly equal or better than RB in race pace !

So I guess P2 should be good enough. Mercedes should aim for a 1-2 which will give Hamilton some extra points vs Verstappen !
Mercedes have the best car? Not sure which season you’ve been watching.
Please dont reply again to Mr.S , this guy just wants to start a debate. This is the Italian GP thread, lets keep it that way. Thank you.
GoLandoGo
Lewis v2.0
King George has arrived.

New found love for GT racing with Assetto Corsa Competizione on PS5 & PC

Mr.S
Mr.S
0
Joined: 09 Apr 2011, 18:21

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

WaikeCU wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:52
Red Bull sandbag with tuned down engine I reckon. Typical Friday stuff.
Possible, could have higher fuel as well. Hamilton was half a second & then had another half due to tyre difference (Soft vs Medium).

No way Mercedes is 1 full second ahead of RB !

User avatar
NathanOlder
48
Joined: 02 Mar 2012, 10:05
Location: Kent

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

WaikeCU wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:52
Red Bull sandbag with tuned down engine I reckon. Typical Friday stuff.
RedBull usually top fridays more often than not don't they ? Over the course of the season , isn't it usually Mercedes who find more power come saturday . Very interesting to see, especially as we saw Lando go P2 on the medium before it got removed!

The only positive about the sprint race format is, we only have 2 hours now to wait for qualifying :P :P
GoLandoGo
Lewis v2.0
King George has arrived.

New found love for GT racing with Assetto Corsa Competizione on PS5 & PC

Just_a_fan
Just_a_fan
593
Joined: 31 Jan 2010, 20:37

Re: 2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

Post

Hoffman900 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:41
grubschumi13 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 15:38
Wow, the Mercs cars are unbeatable. This like most races this season is theirs to lose.
Well, anything can happen in racing. That’s why we watch.
Yeah, he doesn't mean it, however. It's an ongoing theme from that forum member. :wink: :lol:
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.