Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery has repeated at Korea that F1's sole tyre suppliers need to have more relevant tyre testing if it is to develop solid and reliable tyres for the 2014 season.
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Brawn adds: "It was my decision to do the test... We'll see what happens."
I just asking myself how hard would it be for say Michelin to provide tyres for next year?Huntresa wrote:lol @ Pirelli lawyers... So next year we will run on left over tyres from some random year since no one wants to do this job...
), they still have their data from 2005, where the tyres had to last the whole race, so they should be hard enough for this task also.
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IMHO , for Pirelli to "run" the test, that would mean Pirelli techs were operating and servicing the car. I'm positive Merc didn't hand their current car over for Pirelli to operate it.WhiteBlue wrote:How do you arrive at that conclusion? I disagree. It is the privilege and the duty of the president to decide if a tribunal is called. If he came to a clear understanding and found it suitable he could have dealt with the situation in a different way. As it was already pointed out there is serious doubt that the competitor Mercedes "ran" a test by which he violated the regulations. If Mercedes can show during the hearing and by their statements that they simply complied with the request from Pirelli who "ran" the test, they have found a legal way to do the testing they did. We simply have to wait to learn the facts about the tyre test. At the moment nobody can equitably make a decision who "ran" the test and who simply supported it. So I would be careful with statements that oblige the FiA to do things, which in actual fact are subject to discretion and investigation.FoxHound wrote:With Ferrari and Red Bull protesting this test, it is the governing bodies duty to put this before a tribunal.
Plus their own employed test drivers?Pierce89 wrote:IMHO , for Pirelli to "run" the test, that would mean Pirelli techs were operating and servicing the car. I'm positive Merc didn't hand their current car over for Pirelli to operate it.WhiteBlue wrote:How do you arrive at that conclusion? I disagree. It is the privilege and the duty of the president to decide if a tribunal is called. If he came to a clear understanding and found it suitable he could have dealt with the situation in a different way. As it was already pointed out there is serious doubt that the competitor Mercedes "ran" a test by which he violated the regulations. If Mercedes can show during the hearing and by their statements that they simply complied with the request from Pirelli who "ran" the test, they have found a legal way to do the testing they did. We simply have to wait to learn the facts about the tyre test. At the moment nobody can equitably make a decision who "ran" the test and who simply supported it. So I would be careful with statements that oblige the FiA to do things, which in actual fact are subject to discretion and investigation.FoxHound wrote:With Ferrari and Red Bull protesting this test, it is the governing bodies duty to put this before a tribunal.
Jaime Alguersuari will join Pirelli as one of its test drivers from this year alongside Lucas di Grassi, the Italian company has announced.
as johnny mac would say ...you cannot be serious ! what team in their right mind would let drivers other than own behind the wheel for testing ?Pierce89 wrote:Yeah. Cam raised another good point as to why Pirelli didn't "run" the test.
Do you know that for a fact? You sound quite categorical about it.lebesset wrote:as johnny mac would say ...you cannot be serious ! what team in their right mind would let drivers other than own behind the wheel for testing ?Pierce89 wrote:Yeah. Cam raised another good point as to why Pirelli didn't "run" the test.
and even if they were so stupid , what would pirelli have learned from such a test ?
pirelli's test drivers are employed to drive cars they own or lease
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105246There will be a lot more use of simulator, because we have worked extensively on tyre modelling. That is how we will focus on the changes for 2014."
) that want the changes to the tires. I guess the tires are pretty good then ? Or ...Only 2 teams think they're cr@p. 
I think most would be in agreement at this time that the tires are crap. Maybe opinions are still spread about whether or not the amount of tire deg is reasonable. I think ordering drivers to drive to a slow target time is a slap in the face to the concept of motor racing, personally. Even if you don't agree with that, throwing treads (and then subsequently lying about them being "punctures" before admitting they're delams) is unacceptable at this level of motor racing. Teams may be terrified of tire changes as the last time Pirelli did a round of them (steel belts) the treads starting falling off.diffuser wrote:Looks like Pirelli are looking for other ways to "Fix" the delamination problems http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 18740.html . Only 2 teams (wonder who they are
In my Opinion "the tire" issue has only become what it is because certain teams and drivers are trying to effect change in the tire spec. They are trying to effect this change cause they poorly prepared for this specific spec of tire in the off season.
You might find that this is exactly why more people or teams aren't outspoken at the moment. Most series don't take kindly to stomping on a series sponsor, though certainly if your tires are failing you have to say something.There should be a penalty for complaining about the tires. They should be treated as officials get treated in many sports. You complain against the officiating both the driver and the team get fined.
I just find it immensely tough to see the logic that occurred, when the rules are fairly clear on this.turbof1 wrote:You honestly think it went like that? Aside from the question if they are right or wrong, Mercedes will have good reasons to believe that what they did was correct. As it looks now, they atleast assumed out of communications with the FIA that it was allowed.scotty86 wrote:I'm still trying to get my head round why Mercedes decided that it'd be absolutely no problem for them to test with their current car when everyone with any sort of interest in F1 knows what the rules on that are. What were they thinking?
Teams don't do foolish things, even if it looks like that. This was by all means a calculated risk, and for Mercedes the odds seemed good enough.
