I don't think so Manchild. Someone has posted a link suggesting an explanation for the original posters queery as to how Toyota have found a so called magical second per lap within the rules. The thing is though that it's not within the rules if it is some sort kinetic, ballast device is it Manchild? Maybe you would prefer it if I started a new topic on the subject.manchild wrote:If I wrote that I'd get "off topic ranting" reply