2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

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Re: 2020 Turkish Grand Prix - Instanbul Park, Nov 13 - 15

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I would wait for celebrations... How was Stroll behaving during yellows at the end of Q1?

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This track makes for great overtaking so tomorrow will be exciting, still expecting a Max win followed by the 2 Mercs if Dry, if its Wet than anything is possible.

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Here’s one. How annoying will it be if Ronald MacMasi and the wrecking crew ruin it all by nmhanding out multiple penalties retrospectively for Q1?

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lh13 wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:06
El Scorchio wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:02
matt_b wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 15:51


Ummm maybe not Lance Stroll take pole position
It was on the wets. The inters and that blunder from the RBR team was a game changer.
It wasn't a blunder. Maybe the first lap on inters was bad, but then Verstappen was stuck behind Kimi for 2 laps so tyres weren't in their optimal condition.. Had he had those laps clean, able to generate heat in the tyres properly, he could have gotten pole easily, since he lost by a few tenths only.
Have to disagree. They were going great on the wets and they messed up big time sticking him out right behind Kimi which as you just said yourself cost him big time. That’s a blunder.

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Tomorrow no rain expected for the race, track will start wet however. The wind will pick up as the race goes on, and there will be a head wind into turn 1 and turn 8, which will pick up until about the halfway point of the race, then the wind will calm down slowly. This also means a tail wind on the back straight, and in the slow sector 3, although the pit buildings may alter the wind profile in that part of the track.
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matt_b wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:09
This track makes for great overtaking so tomorrow will be exciting, still expecting a Max win followed by the 2 Mercs if Dry, if its Wet than anything is possible.
I doubt the pink cars have more race pace than the RB, I just hope Lance doesn't take out Verstappen in turn 1 should they get along side each other.
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The dumpster shots of VER are really strange. He’s in prime position for tomorrow; pole shouldn’t matter so much you’d think, he’s not a rookie anymore
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godlameroso wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:06
PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 15:59
Hmm Perez got a bit too greedy! But well done Lance! He's proven he is handy in slippery conditions.

Albon a bit closer to his teammate this weekend.

Mercedes really doesn't like when its too cold or too hot.

Oh Lord. Ferrari. Good on the dry track here, but totally sucked in the wet today. Vettel out-qualifies Leclerc for once.
Hamilton said that they were struggling because there are fundamental things on the car that you can't change. I wonder what he meant by that? Starting 5th and 7th means something isn't working in these conditions, could cold water be affecting their brake ducts? Not enough temperature difference between the cross over duct and the brake and rim exhaust?
I think Lewis maximised it today as usual. I don't think there's anything wrong with the car either. These tyres are simply rubbish and it has been that way since Pirelli entered the sport. Been watching F1 since 1994 and I have never seen a car be on rails in wet conditions. That's just the beauty of it but you can visibly see that the car can do a lot more than the tyre provides in even normal dry conditions. The wets is just another world.

Also, it is very evident that everyone is maintaining a PR line and trying to protect Pirelli about the compounds they have this weekend. It is absolutely unbelievable. They simply have decided that they will get the hardest tyre so that they don't cut and there isn't a Silverstone 2013 kind backlash. This nonsense has been going on for a very very long time. The funny thing is that inspite of this third rate product and conservative approach with snooze fest one stop races, tyre failures have not vanished.
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So, assuming it's dry, everyone will be starting on the C3. Is it going to be a two stopper? If so, C3, C3, C2, otherwise C3, C2. The Mercs will struggle in the race as the temps are low and the surface is slippery so getting temperature in to the tyres will be difficult. If they can, they'll start to perform but I think it's big "if".
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El Scorchio wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:11
Here’s one. How annoying will it be if Ronald MacMasi and the wrecking crew ruin it all by nmhanding out multiple penalties retrospectively for Q1?
Do we know which drivers are under investigation?

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also in terms of wet tyres it could be interesting tomorrow (if needed), as basically no one from the top 15 has any new sets of full wets left

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Just_a_fan wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:16
So, assuming it's dry, everyone will be starting on the C3. Is it going to be a two stopper? If so, C3, C3, C2, otherwise C3, C2. The Mercs will struggle in the race as the temps are low and the surface is slippery so getting temperature in to the tyres will be difficult. If they can, they'll start to perform but I think it's big "if".
It will be dry, but the track will be damp when the race starts, so they may have to start on inters. The track is called Intercity Istanbul Park, so maybe it's a race on inters?
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 15:59
Albon a bit closer to his teammate this weekend.
If 2.4s difference is "close" for you, then sure, by all means, he was closer.
He's closer on the grid because only 2 cars could make their tyres work, RB & RP, otherwise he's as far back as he's ever been.

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godlameroso wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:19
Just_a_fan wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:16
So, assuming it's dry, everyone will be starting on the C3. Is it going to be a two stopper? If so, C3, C3, C2, otherwise C3, C2. The Mercs will struggle in the race as the temps are low and the surface is slippery so getting temperature in to the tyres will be difficult. If they can, they'll start to perform but I think it's big "if".
It will be dry, but the track will be damp when the race starts, so they may have to start on inters. The track is called Intercity Istanbul Park, so maybe it's a race on inters?
Ah, starting on inters would allow inter, C3, C3 assuming a 2 stopper. The question is how many laps will it take to get a dry line. And once there's a dry line, overtaking will be extremely difficult.
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Pramesi wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:18
El Scorchio wrote:
14 Nov 2020, 16:11
Here’s one. How annoying will it be if Ronald MacMasi and the wrecking crew ruin it all by nmhanding out multiple penalties retrospectively for Q1?
Do we know which drivers are under investigation?
They haven’t said but potentially quite a few I think?