2022 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Hammerfist]

I have to disagree with Binotto here, I am sure given the proper tyres Leclerc had the pace to win; yes sure the Ferrari didn't have the expected pace advantage over Mercs or RB but they sure as hell had the pace to challenge for a win or hell at least a podium.

Ferrari's performance this season has shown that a fast car doesn't doesn't automatically mean you can win!

No doubt. I agree that he could've won given a better strategy call. But it shouldn't have been close in the first place.

He said Leclerc not being able to pass Perez showed that there was an issue.

Yea, after you demote guy from 1st to 6th and pit him twice in 10 laps, maybe he wont really drive like madman to get from 6th to 5th. Hard to say whats real reason for that last stint pace, but they had plenty of it on M (at least Leclerc)

Yeah I don't blame charles if he took it easy in the last stint. He was really screwed this race and it seems that Sainz is the preferred driver at Ferrari. Not sure why, maybe he cooks a mean spaghetti or something.

[Xyz22]

Another embarrassing weekend in an already embarrassing season.

[Sevach]

Unbelievable...

[ringo]

both Sainz and binotto saying - car had no pace ,

yet Charles overtook Russell and had pulled a 6s advantage on Russell and 10s advantage on Max. Was on course for a win How ?

or is its that Sainz is trying to hide his average performance and binotto is trying to hide his stupid strategy team ( he didn't wnat to sh*t on them in open )

Sainz is only right about himself.
The car had pace for P-2 at least. However it could not beat the redbull today. The redbull i find, seems to be 3 tenths to 5 tenths faster on average. The way how Max and Perez were slicing through the field, Ferrari would have struggled to stay in P-1.
If Max did't have engine settings to reset, he would have been past Hamilton very early, then basically be attacking ferrari, then undercutting then going on to win. So yes Sainz is right, but he could have done better. And with a good strategy Leclerc would have at least be able to fight Max and defend, though i do not think he would be able to keep Max behind.

[JPower]

Yeah I don't blame charles if he took it easy in the last stint. He was really screwed this race and it seems that Sainz is the preferred driver at Ferrari. Not sure why, maybe he cooks a mean spaghetti or something.

He wasn't taking it easy as he was the fastest man on the track at that point. Leclerc is never going to be one to just slack during a race. Give him more credit than that.

The problem was that pace was still a good bit off Lewis's stint on the same tires even though he had less fuel.

To me, that's a car issue. The mediums were great for Leclerc but the other tires clearly weren't.

[Shal_Leg16]

both Sainz and binotto saying - car had no pace ,

yet Charles overtook Russell and had pulled a 6s advantage on Russell and 10s advantage on Max. Was on course for a win How ?

or is its that Sainz is trying to hide his average performance and binotto is trying to hide his stupid strategy team ( he didn't wnat to sh*t on them in open )

Sainz is only right about himself.
The car had pace for P-2 at least. However it could not beat the redbull today. The redbull i find, seems to be 3 tenths to 5 tenths faster on average. The way how Max and Perez were slicing through the field, Ferrari would have struggled to stay in P-1.
If Max did't have engine settings to reset, he would have been past Hamilton very early, then basically be attacking ferrari, then undercutting then going on to win. So yes Sainz is right, but he could have done better. And with a good strategy Leclerc would have at least be able to fight Max and defend, though i do not think he would be able to keep Max behind.

he is not saying he had some issue thats why he was slow ...he is clearly saying the car was overall slower against opposition which is not true.

data is showing there is not much difference in Max & Charles on Mediums/softs , so it was not the car. even then they were not slower then both Mercedes.

he should have done better against Russel in first stint. couldn't clear him off also held off leclerc ... meanwhile Max was storming in from behind. that first stint played perfectly in RBs hands.

[pipoloko]

for Those that says that Binotto is wrong
I would say >>> write to Elkan and offer your services!!!!!
the problems is not Binotto
the car is not enough quick in cold weather !!!! that is a design problem !!!!
do you understand the influence of temperature in racing cars?
do you understand that HAM got the best lap on the same (older red) tires as LEC
please stop blaming the team if you are technical guys!!!
the only critic in my opinion is that RB and MB look have done better improvements after half a season while Ferrari now is behind

[tpe]

after this ... anyone who is working on that strategy thing for Ferrari should have some shame. some shame ffs....

Not sure how the tires get chosen but Ferrari had only 1 set of Mediums and 1 set of hards like everyone but HAM, Max, Per and Gas that had 2 sets of mediums, 1 used and 1 set of hard. So the strategies where a bit locked in from before the race.

Sainz went for M-M-S...

[ringo]

both Sainz and binotto saying - car had no pace ,

yet Charles overtook Russell and had pulled a 6s advantage on Russell and 10s advantage on Max. Was on course for a win How ?

or is its that Sainz is trying to hide his average performance and binotto is trying to hide his stupid strategy team ( he didn't wnat to sh*t on them in open )

Sainz is only right about himself.
The car had pace for P-2 at least. However it could not beat the redbull today. The redbull i find, seems to be 3 tenths to 5 tenths faster on average. The way how Max and Perez were slicing through the field, Ferrari would have struggled to stay in P-1.
If Max did't have engine settings to reset, he would have been past Hamilton very early, then basically be attacking ferrari, then undercutting then going on to win. So yes Sainz is right, but he could have done better. And with a good strategy Leclerc would have at least be able to fight Max and defend, though i do not think he would be able to keep Max behind.

he is not saying he had some issue thats why he was slow ...he is clearly saying the car was overall slower against opposition which is not true.

data is showing there is not much difference in Max & Charles on Mediums/softs , so it was not the car. even then they were not slower then both Mercedes.

he should have done better against Russel in first stint. couldn't clear him off also held off leclerc ... meanwhile Max was storming in from behind. that first stint played perfectly in RBs hands.

Agreed!
Sainz had no teeth today.
But I do feel Max had a lot of pace left.

[JPower]

Sainz saying he had incredible tire deg throughout the race and has no clue why.

Welp, that's enough coverage from me. Hopefully Ferrari comes back from the break ready to race and maybe with a plan to overhaul the strat team for 2023...maybe...please?

[ringo]

for Those that says that Binotto is wrong
I would say >>> write to Elkan and offer your services!!!!!
the problems is not Binotto
the car is not enough quick in cold weather !!!! that is a design problem !!!!
do you understand the influence of temperature in racing cars?
do you understand that HAM got the best lap on the same (older red) tires as LEC
please stop blaming the team if you are technical guys!!!
the only critic in my opinion is that RB and MB look have done better improvements after half a season while Ferrari now is behind

True. the hard tyre decsion made things look worse than they are.
From qualifying it was obvious redbull were the faster car here. But that hard tyre plan was salt in the wounds.
Ferrari should noticed the Alpines. They believed too much in their downforce on their car being able to work the tyre.

[dialtone]

No. Leclerk had only 1 set of mediums left for the race. No matter what Formula1.com says. Its wrong. It was widely reported by almost every other source observing tyre use of the teams.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY-0BTbXwAE ... ame=medium

You better should read commentaries completely. This is wrong.

Leclerc started and medium and did the 2nd stint on mediums too. Then went hard and soft.

[Shal_Leg16]

for Those that says that Binotto is wrong
I would say >>> write to Elkan and offer your services!!!!!
the problems is not Binotto
the car is not enough quick in cold weather !!!! that is a design problem !!!!
do you understand the influence of temperature in racing cars?
do you understand that HAM got the best lap on the same (older red) tires as LEC
please stop blaming the team if you are technical guys!!!
the only critic in my opinion is that RB and MB look have done better improvements after half a season while Ferrari now is behind

you are being either too naive or acting as one.

binotto can go and s*ck his strategists noodle ffs.

at one stage leclerc had clearled off Russell and had a 6sec advantage on him and 10sec on Max . all that with 5 lap tyre advantage. had they not called him for hards and let him drive for 10 laps more and then bring in for softs he would still be at worst 2nd and would have had a run at max with fresher tyres.

and you are telling me the whether was clold ....what else a tornedo ? a cyclone ? utter nonsense. its obvious binotto wont accept it publically that he and his strategic team are clowns.

[tpe]

Not sure how the tires get chosen but Ferrari had only 1 set of Mediums and 1 set of hards like everyone but HAM, Max, Per and Gas that had 2 sets of mediums, 1 used and 1 set of hard. So the strategies where a bit locked in from before the race.

Wrong.

Wrong. Ferraris had 2 sets of mediums

No. Leclerk had only 1 set of mediums left for the race. No matter what Formula1.com says. Its wrong. It was widely reported by almost every other source observing tyre use of the teams.

Did you watch the race?
Because Leclerc started on Mediums and fit Mediums on the 1st pitstop...

[dialtone]

for Those that says that Binotto is wrong
I would say >>> write to Elkan and offer your services!!!!!
the problems is not Binotto
the car is not enough quick in cold weather !!!! that is a design problem !!!!
do you understand the influence of temperature in racing cars?
do you understand that HAM got the best lap on the same (older red) tires as LEC
please stop blaming the team if you are technical guys!!!
the only critic in my opinion is that RB and MB look have done better improvements after half a season while Ferrari now is behind

you are being either too naive or acting as one.

binotto can go and s*ck his strategists noodle ffs.

at one stage leclerc had clearled off Russell and had a 6sec advantage on him and 10sec on Max . all that with 5 lap tyre advantage. had they not called him for hards and let him drive for 10 laps more and then bring in for softs he would still be at worst 2nd and would have had a run at max with fresher tyres.

and you are telling me the whether was clold ....what else a tornedo ? a cyclone ? utter nonsense. its obvious binotto wont accept it publically that he and his strategic team are clowns.

I agree with what you are saying, but what do you expect Binotto to say in an interview? "Yeah I'm just walking down to sack the strategy team" that's going to create the right morale in the team. They know the team made strategic errors in the season but won't discuss that in an interview.