2015 Austrian Grand Prix - 19-21 June

[ferkan]

Ferrari will never get pole position until they have similar engine mode that gives them 20-25hp boost.

[Sevach]

Thanks for the info on Rosberg's lap.

BTW Hulkenberg is having an unbelievable high these last 10 days, incredible 5th place.
Maybe putting himself in contention for that Raikkonen seat.

[Jordan44]

Ferrari will never get pole position until they have similar engine mode that gives them 20-25hp boost.

I think the issue is that they are still about 30BHP down, not that Merc have a qualifying mode.

[Juzh]

Ferrari will never get pole position until they have similar engine mode that gives them 20-25hp boost.

I think the issue is that they are still about 30BHP down, not that Merc have a qualifying mode.

They do have it. Called strat 1

[iotar__]

It's too predictable:
- Ferrari drivers can't challenge Merc, synchronized failure there and no one to benefit behind, 100% fail-proof situation too. Maybe because it's not "dangerous" enough (another marketing BS soundbite) and cars are too easy to drive? You can't be serious blaming a car or an engine, plenty laps of evidence to the contrary.
- Lotus completed usual 100% failure rate weekend with Q3 problems, are they using mostly interns (saves money) to design and prepare cars?

- Massa faster than Bottas = he can expect technical problems tomorrow. What happened to supposedly top driver Riccciardo, again? I guess Kvyat and recycled Hulkenberg are the flavours of the millisecond.
- I noticed many believers in sector times counting instead of full lap so how much faster was Rosberg after two sectors? That's what counts, right, ominous potential or something .

[ferkan]

Ferrari will never get pole position until they have similar engine mode that gives them 20-25hp boost.

I think the issue is that they are still about 30BHP down, not that Merc have a qualifying mode.

No they defininitely have it. They cant run that mode for long periods, its pretty evident they had it last year as well.

Mattia Binotto (Ferrari engine chief) said yesterday two engines are very close in power, but its obvious that Merc has advantage in Q3 with that mode.

[Jordan44]

Ferrari will never get pole position until they have similar engine mode that gives them 20-25hp boost.

I think the issue is that they are still about 30BHP down, not that Merc have a qualifying mode.

No they defininitely have it. They cant run that mode for long periods, its pretty evident they had it last year as well.

Mattia Binotto (Ferrari engine chief) said yesterday two engines are very close in power, but its obvious that Merc has advantage in Q3 with that mode.

But in Canada, Merc's upgrade meant that they could run closer to the performance of the qualifying mode for the entire race. Ideally Merc would like to run with the same power in the race and qualifying and I believe they're now reaching the limit for that. The Merc engine is surely a bit more powerful when you look at it this way.

[Spoutnik]

But in Canada, Merc's upgrade meant that they could run closer to the performance of the qualifying mode for the entire race. Ideally Merc would like to run with the same power in the race and qualifying and I believe they're now reaching the limit for that. The Merc engine is surely a bit more powerful when you look at it this way.

But, like it's said it's a "qualy boost" you can applied this boost currently in race, or only during one run. The map could be linked with energy store or push the ERS at the limit in fact.

Ferrari won't challenge Mercedes tomorrow. Once again Mercedes unleashed extra power in qualifying and it's a difficult track to overtake at.

And now it's GP2 time. Finally.

I think Vettel and Raikko (if SC came) can challenge, trouble the Merc. Furthermore, the condition tomorow will be warmer than today, we will see

[ferkan]

But in Canada, Merc's upgrade meant that they could run closer to the performance of the qualifying mode for the entire race. Ideally Merc would like to run with the same power in the race and qualifying and I believe they're now reaching the limit for that. The Merc engine is surely a bit more powerful when you look at it this way.

Dont know where you read that but I dont believe it. You dont go for turning up a mode for few dozen times tops to turning it up for entire engines lifetime with reliability update.

As I said Enrico Benzing (engineer) writes extensive annalysis on his blog after every race and put both PUs in very close proximity after canada, but only in race. His calculation showed that Mercs quali mode brings another 20hp for few laps. In the end thats the reason why Merc is .1-.2 seconds in practices and, half a second in Q3. Speed traps show it very well...

[ferkan]

Just read that Vettel didnt have a DRS in his last run. Someone has any info on that?

[Spoutnik]

But in Canada, Merc's upgrade meant that they could run closer to the performance of the qualifying mode for the entire race. Ideally Merc would like to run with the same power in the race and qualifying and I believe they're now reaching the limit for that. The Merc engine is surely a bit more powerful when you look at it this way.

Dont know where you read that but I dont believe it. You dont go for turning up a mode for few dozen times tops to turning it up for entire engines lifetime with reliability update.

As I said Enrico Benzing (engineer) writes extensive annalysis on his blog after every race and put both PUs in very close proximity after canada, but only in race. His calculation showed that Mercs quali mode brings another 20hp for few laps. In the end thats the reason why Merc is .1-.2 seconds in practices and, half a second in Q3. Speed traps show it very well...

In practise the Merc had more fuel on the car also, and Rosberg said he hidden his game clearly in itw.

[SectorOne]

Equal on poles now, 45 each and effectively sharing third place with Senna and Schumacher ahead.



IF either driver has the chance to get another 2 years of having the best car they could top the list.
20 for Senna and 23 to top Schumacher.

[drunkf1fan]

In free practice the consistency with which Ferrari could do 'qualifying' times was impressive, they can do multiple fast laps in a row. It's very evident that Mercedes both have to go back and forth with fastest laps and slow battery charging laps.

The only thing that gives me hope for Ferrari being genuinely competitive in the future is how strong they look in that consistency. The Ferrari has got a great ERS system, it's looking an increasingly strong platform to build from for next year though I doubt they'll develop the engine or car to be truly competitive this year.

I think next year it would be great to see RBR/TR jump to Ferrari, it would instantly jump both teams up the grid and give us some real action at the front. If Ferrari do make another step next year we should have the chance of some good competition. At least with Ferrari's you'd have two teams finishing more races and being in amongst Ferrari/Williams/Lotus area.

Another year of two of the biggest teams having duff engines would be a disaster.

[Jordan44]

But in Canada, Merc's upgrade meant that they could run closer to the performance of the qualifying mode for the entire race. Ideally Merc would like to run with the same power in the race and qualifying and I believe they're now reaching the limit for that. The Merc engine is surely a bit more powerful when you look at it this way.

Dont know where you read that but I dont believe it. You dont go for turning up a mode for few dozen times tops to turning it up for entire engines lifetime with reliability update.

As I said Enrico Benzing (engineer) writes extensive annalysis on his blog after every race and put both PUs in very close proximity after canada, but only in race. His calculation showed that Mercs quali mode brings another 20hp for few laps. In the end thats the reason why Merc is .1-.2 seconds in practices and, half a second in Q3. Speed traps show it very well...

I didn't say top, but their aim is to close in on the qualifying performance in the race. It came from Andy Cowell talking to Sky. I still strongly believe Mercedes still have 20BHP over Ferrari.

[Juzh]

Just read that Vettel didnt have a DRS in his last run. Someone has any info on that?

I know he didn't use it after the last turn on the run to the line. He could simply forget to use it.

Edit. Just checked. As I said, he didn't use it after the last turn, but that's it.