2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Re: 2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:03
No big upgrade package Image

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organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:03
No big upgrade package https://i.imgur.com/sFbuV0m.jpeg
*sigh* Hungary it is then.

They said the car would look quite different with their big upgrade package on their statements earlier on the season.

So far, nothing that big.

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This is the same region as the Suzuka and Imola floor upgrades. Clearly they aren't happy with what's going on in this area even after 2 changes..

Anyway the tunnels fences and diffuser wait another day :mrgreen:

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not a big package, but most performance comes from the floor, so let's see

we should have understood yesterday it was only the floor, you don't bother painting a special livery on a not updated bodywork

floor body and edge were lastly updated in Imola
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organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:03
No big upgrade package https://i.imgur.com/sFbuV0m.jpeg
As I expected, "sources" and newssites making things up.

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Or a weather related decision to delay the upgrades because they expect interrupted running.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:46
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:03
No big upgrade package https://i.imgur.com/sFbuV0m.jpeg
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As I expected, "sources" and newssites making things up.
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Why? The new floor could be a big upgrade. Lets wait and see.

Nobody mentioned a great upgrade PACKAGE, only a great upgrade:

"Red Bull zündet in Silverstone das vierte große Upgrade in diesem Jahr. "
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Wouter wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 13:13
FittingMechanics wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:46
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
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As I expected, "sources" and newssites making things up.
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Why? The new floor could be a big upgrade. Lets wait and see.

Nobody mentioned a great upgrade PACKAGE, only a great upgrade:

"Red Bull zündet in Silverstone das vierte große Upgrade in diesem Jahr. "
Their description is subtle and minor reprofiling but I guess, theoretically that can be a great upgrade.
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FittingMechanics wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:46
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:03
No big upgrade package https://i.imgur.com/sFbuV0m.jpeg
As I expected, "sources" and newssites making things up.
Van Haren said new floor, Max and Marko said updates are coming. Marko said they should have an effect on stopwatch.
So so far nothing made up.

That some media outlets interpreted as a big package is typical clickbait.
I have fallen for it as well as I was also expecting a bit more, but maybe they also updated parts they don't have to declare.

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Cassius wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 13:19
FittingMechanics wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:46
organic wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:05
As I expected, "sources" and newssites making things up.
Van Haren said new floor, Max and Marko said updates are coming. Marko said they should have an effect on stopwatch.
So so far nothing made up.

That some media outlets interpreted as a big package is typical clickbait.
I have fallen for it as well as I was also expecting a bit more, but maybe they also updated parts they don't have to declare.
With this I agree, they mention updates and the twitter turns it into a big massive upgrade and then it trickles down into expectations here.

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They write "minor". If someone writes "minor" it is always suspicious. :D
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Apparently only Max will drive the new floor as they were only able to get one ready, according to Motorsport TR



As for the size of the upgrade.. this is unexpected

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First few laps of FP1 were relatively balanced. Considering hard tires, it looks very decent.

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Asked van Haren.
Question: is it a surprise to see such a small update for red bull this weekend?

Van Haren: No, it's a new floor, I don't know if you can consider that 'small'. Nobody has come up with big packages this weekend.

Red Bull as reported is still coming out with more updates this month, will be true for pretty much everyone. They are working hard towards Hungary.
https://x.com/ErikvHaren/status/1809194057945506294

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Balance looks good on mediums in FP1 as well. I'm not able to detect any "limitation". No understeer in low-speed, no problems in high-speed.