That will certainly not be the case. You absolutely do not want to risk having liquid water inside the tire, because your pressures would be out off control. E.g from 80 to 100 degC the water vapour pressure increases by 0.5 bar/7psi. So your tire pressure would increase by that amount+ the thermal expansion of the air itself.
I wouldn't count Brazil, the conditions played a HUGE part.organic wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 00:33Indeed. I'm just posting what red bull thinks
Here's the article https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/fres ... ing%20more.
If red bull has race winning pace in the remaining 3 races (4 including Brazil/Brazil sprint) after not having it for a long time then it's pretty good confirmation?
I think they are talking about the sprint only, where it looked like red bull were at least equal fastest if not fastest. It is the first time in months that red bull have had the fastest car in race conditions - there was no dropoff in quali-> race performance which had become the norm for the year.dia6olo wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 23:22I wouldn't count Brazil, the conditions played a HUGE part.organic wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 00:33Indeed. I'm just posting what red bull thinks
Here's the article https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/fres ... ing%20more.
If red bull has race winning pace in the remaining 3 races (4 including Brazil/Brazil sprint) after not having it for a long time then it's pretty good confirmation?
Alpine's performance can vouch for that.
Mclaren also wasn't amazing in the COTA sprint, Verstappen kept Norris at bay and even extended at the end, Norris fell to Sainz and had to hold on vs Charles.organic wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 01:21
I think they are talking about the sprint only, where it looked like red bull were at least equal fastest if not fastest. It is the first time in months that red bull have had the fastest car in race conditions - there was no dropoff in quali-> race performance which had become the norm for the year.
Lando struggled with front graining in Sprint at COTA, which is very particular issue and deg pattern, often caused by wrong setup or less than optimal driving. Way to often we see a driver struggling with graining to much lesser extent than his teammate in identical car. With Lando we also saw that in Monza, whereas drop off the pace of Piastri (caused by graining) wasn't nearly as bad and rapid.
Gary Anderson a former mechanic who has no formal qualifications............Waz wrote: ↑04 Nov 2024, 09:06He really makes it hard to believe that he is an engineer. That article comes as across as poorly educated or researched.SilviuAgo wrote: ↑03 Nov 2024, 14:50Gary Anderson: Red Bull's McLaren tyre water theory doesn't add up
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/red- ... -anderson/
Tyre tricks are nothing new and have seen large performance benefits, couple of instancesavantman wrote: ↑05 Nov 2024, 10:54Damn! If this trick is so easy and makes the tires last so much better reducing thermal deg dramatically - legalize it for all of them for the sake of better racing! Make the cars far more draggier, increase natural slipstream effect, get rid of the DRS and we can start to enjoy the sport again. I mean not just on these rare wet track days or low deg circuits where drivers can actually push hard for most of the race.
Still got to be Chief Engineer and TD and got an honorary PhD some 10 years ago, I think
The latest case concerns McLaren's use of Pirelli compounds, a suspicion fueled and pushed by Red Bull but which has also found allies in other teams.
Also the amounts in question are less than 10ml, not large quantities that would affect the unsprung mass considerably as speculated heresome teams strongly suspect that in Woking they had put water inside the tire via the inflation valve
Recommend reading the full articleAccording to what Formu1a.uno learned in the last few hours, we are talking about milliliters , therefore very small quantities of water, considering that a single ml would allow a decrease of a few degrees in the temperature at the heart of the tire.
Water is a very good medium. Very high latent heat of evaporation, under pressures used in pirellis tyres the bp of water is only just above the operating window of pirelli tyres, and its presence if discovered can be more easily hand waved away than any other more exotic/specific substance