Pirelli 2013

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Red Bull have officially protested.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
Dyanxx wrote: According to this article Ferrari have already had a test with Pirelli after the Bahrain GP, and they seem fine at coping with the tyres, so I don't understand the big issue here.

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2013/05/ ... e-testing/
Huge difference with Ferrari using the F150 and Mercedes using this years car. Don't see the difference there?
Dont get upset much, some people are blind to see truth and what is really going on or wont on purpously understand for their own reasons. I wouldn't get upset to much in discussion with them who cant see nothing more from their finger.
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enckboaz wrote:can somone help me to understand? why pirelli is still in f1??
I don't know if is Pirelli fault or if they are simply doing what they were asked to do but from a business point of view this is a completely train wreck. everyone now complains about the pirelli tyres.
half of the f1 fans now hate pirelli. i don't get the point to stay in f1...

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If what Brawn is saying is true then it's a storm in a tea cup really. Apparently it was run past the FIA and they gave Mercedes the green light for the test with Pirelli. Also they didn't try and keep it quiet, they were preparing for the test whilst the other teams were packing up so it should have been obvious at the time.

Also the team didn't know which tyres they were testing with at any one point, each tyre just had a code on it, and it sounds like they didn't change anything on the car as Pirelli wanted a consistent car.

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Teams should do a 2005 USA GP start on the next grand prix, just to protest this kind of bull**** that Pirelli and FIA are doing... this should not be happening in Formula 1, either they all test, or no-one tests!
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myurr
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Paul Hembry said on the grid walk that Mercedes didn't test any current tyres, it was all future work and they weren't told what they were testing.

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non the less, why only mercedes?
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myurr wrote:Paul Hembry said on the grid walk that Mercedes didn't test any current tyres, it was all future work and they weren't told what they were testing.
So (considering the fact that the regulations were already made and they knew that they can ask for a team to test (with the current car - which is banging heads with the testing rules) at anytime) they asked for a car up and down the grid until they got a Renault from Lotus, hired drivers and a team that operates that car but still they ask for teams to test just because the regulation allows them to do so.

As I said it before - I don't want to bash Pirelli because it is very hard to make everyone happy in this multi-billion business, but this story with Mercedes...
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Another point here. Pirelli originally wanted to make changes to "reduce pit stops". They never once said at that stage their tyres are "unsafe". That came later when it was realized no change could be made unless it actually was "safety" related. So we either have an admission of Pirelli supplying unsafe product, or a manufactured excuse to iniate change. Which is it?

If the emergency test session is for the immediate safety issue, then the current 2013 tyres would have been used, so would any replacements. If it was for 2014 only, then that's hardly "emergency" is it?
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With current tyres Monaco is even a bigger borefest. If someone looks at the lap times statistics.
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what relevance does a 2014 tyre on a 2013 car have?

Also thought Pirelli are yet to even start the development of 2014 tyre as per Paul hembry.

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The Mercedes tested the new Pirelli tyres for Canada. Guess who will be on the front row in Canada? :lol:

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Utterly, utterly ridiculous.

The other teams should now get the option to test the same tyres with the same mileage.

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Why in earth did they ask Mercedes? They probably will not have gotten an advantage out of it, but asking one top team to test is asking problems from the others.

Nobody would have made the slightest remark if they choosed a team like Marussia. #-o
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And there I was, thinking the very worst thing Pirelli could do was alter competitive balance mid-season with a change to the tire compounds. I guess I just wasn't open-minded enough to allow for the possibility that the company is truly inept in every single facet of F1 operations.

Mercedes got 1,000km of free running at the world's greatest test track with their current car, and they got to do so in representative weather, a luxury not afforded during the winter tests. I'm speechless.

Pirelli had one job to do: to supply the same tires to each team with the same data. Apparently, they can't even get that right.

And the FIA... :lol:
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