2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Steady on peeps, we haven’t even had qualifying yet!
Just a fan's point of view

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I raised it on autosport forum. I honestly prefer not to see Newey added. His salary will be hard to cover without losing elsewhere due to costcap. The influence on internal team dynamics etc etc. Honestly right now, everything look so well balanced, with a pure aero guy and a pure chassis guy, cooperating and bringing the best out of the car
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LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:07
Dafnalina wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 17:19
LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 17:11
A more moderately loaded beam wing on Oscar's car at the start of FP2.
https://i.ibb.co/6FBbKnH/FC23072-E-C53- ... -C0807.jpg
Is Lando running the fp1 wing?
No. Lando has the same beam wing as Oscar. Same option with a larger area and angle of attack.
Which will be the right choice. I was surprised with the FP1 Beam wing, the floor still has a big job to do here.

It's important to get what we can from the beam wing without offending the flow of the rear wing.
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Max can for sure still grap pole, butvthere is no denying the car once again works very well, and that on a very different track type, to what they had recently. And fastets sec2
CjC wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:10
Steady on peeps, we haven’t even had qualifying yet!

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Better FP2, was concerned after FP1 that Max was going to blow everyone away and I still wouldn’t rule it out as he was suspiciously fast in FP1.

Great to see us with a gap between us and the Ferrari and Mercedes, but were long runs a lot more closely matched?

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f1rules wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 17:53
Incredible how well balanced and fast the car is. Its like the “base/core” of the car is just so good, so no matter which df package they apply it just works and its “easy” to extract maximum performance, what an insane job from mclaren :shock: simply i credible
And that's great. I wasn't surprised by the pace and speed in Hungary, but here in Spa so far I'm more than happy with what we showed in FP2. So far we can say that the updated rear wing for low downforce is effective.

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Danish commentator and former f1 nicolas kiesa said they dominated race sims, but we will know soon, when the number crunchers from twitter finish their excelent jobs

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mwillems wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:11
LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:07
Dafnalina wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 17:19

Is Lando running the fp1 wing?
No. Lando has the same beam wing as Oscar. Same option with a larger area and angle of attack.
Which will be the right choice. I was surprised with the FP1 Beam wing, the floor still has a big job to do here.

It's important to get what we can from the beam wing without offending the flow of the rear wing.
I agree with you. But as I joked earlier, they were preparing for Monza... oh, and Baku and Las Vegas. Here at Spa, a little more balance is required between downforce and straight-line speed.

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LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:18
mwillems wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:11
LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:07


No. Lando has the same beam wing as Oscar. Same option with a larger area and angle of attack.
Which will be the right choice. I was surprised with the FP1 Beam wing, the floor still has a big job to do here.

It's important to get what we can from the beam wing without offending the flow of the rear wing.
I agree with you. But as I joked earlier, they were preparing for Monza... oh, and Baku and Las Vegas. Here at Spa, a little more balance is required between downforce and straight-line speed.
I think they were being a little optimistic with the floor efficiency.

I've noticed thar they do experiment more with the beam wing. Partly because they aren't adjustable and partly because of the complex balance and interactions at the rear of the car are probably hard to model and predict
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f1rules wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:11
I raised it on autosport forum. I honestly prefer not to see Newey added. His salary will be hard to cover without losing elsewhere due to costcap. The influence on internal team dynamics etc etc. Honestly right now, everything look so well balanced, with a pure aero guy and a pure chassis guy, cooperating and bringing the best out of the car
Charge it to MasterCard.. :lol:
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Ground Effect wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:37
f1rules wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:11
I raised it on autosport forum. I honestly prefer not to see Newey added. His salary will be hard to cover without losing elsewhere due to costcap. The influence on internal team dynamics etc etc. Honestly right now, everything look so well balanced, with a pure aero guy and a pure chassis guy, cooperating and bringing the best out of the car
Charge it to MasterCard.. :lol:
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f1rules wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:11
I raised it on autosport forum. I honestly prefer not to see Newey added. His salary will be hard to cover without losing elsewhere due to costcap. The influence on internal team dynamics etc etc. Honestly right now, everything look so well balanced, with a pure aero guy and a pure chassis guy, cooperating and bringing the best out of the car
Top 3 salaries are excluded from budget cap.

To an extent, I agree about the team balance, they're on a role, why change the recipe now? Thing is, the recipe is about to changed for them... 2026 brings a whole heap of new tech regs. For that, I'd rather having Newey batting for my team, than the opposition. His experience is priceless

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LionsHeart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 18:14
f1rules wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 17:53
Incredible how well balanced and fast the car is. Its like the “base/core” of the car is just so good, so no matter which df package they apply it just works and its “easy” to extract maximum performance, what an insane job from mclaren :shock: simply i credible
And that's great. I wasn't surprised by the pace and speed in Hungary, but here in Spa so far I'm more than happy with what we showed in FP2. So far we can say that the updated rear wing for low downforce is effective.
The car has always been fast in a straight line and Spa has only 2 high speed corners and a fair number of mid speed corners, which the MCL38 likes. It is only when DRS is open that we lose a little time compared to others. So I think that this is a very good track for us.

In my head, before I looked at the track layout again, I imagined more high speed corners and I thought Red Bull would be good. but actually, I think this track suits us as much as them.

That said, if we take pole by less than a tenth of a second again, we might say thankyou to those who reduced the DRS zone...!

And this is why I was labouring the point to those suggesting how mighty RB look here after FP1. We weren't anywhere near even a basic level, for some reason.
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