2021 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 12-14

[straightline]

https://streamable.com/zo111f

Steering wheel stop working mid-corner, or what?

credit to u/kj-ka- for the stabilization

Wanna see Max's onboard before I pass judgement, but it looks like another case of "haha, steering wheel go brrrrr" from him

why is that?
stewards haven’t seen max on board or telemetry either

[Aesop]

Heroic drive by Max, right on the edge. Gave it everything but in the end the Mercedes was way too fast. They have found a magic button on the engine I guess.

[foxmulder_ms]

Lewis id take the racing line in Bahrain, and Max ha no choice but to go off the track there.

Lewis got a 10-second penalty but his fans were here on this very forum talking about how that was a racing incident, a narrative that just looks plain silly in hindsight. They can't have it both ways the Merc fans, they cannot say that it is racing incident when your driver does it and it is the devil himself when the other driver does it.

Lewis tried to stick it onto racing track, while Max didn't even bother making the corner. it is not comparable at all.

Now Bahrain... Please where did here Lewis pushed Max outside? Max stomped on the pedal and went outside the track. Again didn't bother to take the corner no matter the cost.

https://i.ibb.co/5R02ny0/Screenshot-202 ... 225146.jpg

To me that is incompetence on max side managing the corner when wheel to wheel

https://i.imgur.com/5dUNnUY.png

Apples and oranges. One is on track, the other is orbiting the circuit

max's relatives were stewards this weekend. What a travesty.

But HAM showed them all. Legend. The guys is a legend.

[foxmulder_ms]

Heroic drive by Max, right on the edge. Gave it everything but in the end the Mercedes was way too fast. They have found a magic button on the engine I guess.

Yep, he is the hero of "let me push everyone off the circuit" gang..

[the poster below]

Although verstappen and Hamilton were both fined this weekend, everybody's favourite code (the International Sporting Code of the FIA) says:

ARTICLE 12.7 LIABILITY TO PAY FINES
A Competitor shall be responsible for the payment of any fine inflicted on their Drivers, assistants, passengers, etc.

Makes you wonder why they bother fining the drivers at all.

[bonjon1979]

Hilarious hearing Herbert saying that maybe if Hamilton had stayed on track he would’ve got the penalty! To quote Christian horners praise of max, if Lewis had have turned in and tries to stay on track he would’ve been in the catch fencing.

[NathanOlder]

I see just the 2 Honda teams in the speed traps and more so I didn`t see HAM in the top 6 in the most important :

http://postimg.cc/LY54vZy6

'Stellar clinical'-Horners statements become more and more ridicolous checking these stats.

These speed trap numbers are utterly meaningless. Gasly was literally inches behind alonso when crossing speed trap line. You cant just take them at face value. Reality is hamilton was gaining 7-8 tenths up the hill and he started to gain that time troughout entire straight, not just the very end. Quite obviously he had a chunk more power compared to max.

Sector 2 speed trap is not really worth mentioning as its a very short straight and if you have a good exit it will show in higher speed. Perez fit soft tyres at the end was obviously very fast trough that section.

You should know better than to say Hamilton was gaining 7 or 8 tenths up the hill. His closest out of the final corner was 7 tenths I think on the exit. He never once got close enough to pass Max in to turn 1. He was gaining half a second at best with the tow and DRS.

[zibby43]

https://streamable.com/zo111f

Steering wheel stop working mid-corner, or what?

credit to u/kj-ka- for the stabilization

Wanna see Max's onboard before I pass judgement, but it looks like another case of "haha, steering wheel go brrrrr" from him

Absolutely. Apparently that lack of onboard is the only reason the stewards did nothing.

[Sieper]

'Stellar clinical'-Horners statements become more and more ridicolous checking these stats.

These speed trap numbers are utterly meaningless. Gasly was literally inches behind alonso when crossing speed trap line. You cant just take them at face value. Reality is hamilton was gaining 7-8 tenths up the hill and he started to gain that time troughout entire straight, not just the very end. Quite obviously he had a chunk more power compared to max.

Sector 2 speed trap is not really worth mentioning as its a very short straight and if you have a good exit it will show in higher speed. Perez fit soft tyres at the end was obviously very fast trough that section.

You should know better than to say Hamilton was gaining 7 or 8 tenths up the hill. His closest out of the final corner was 7 tenths I think on the exit. He never once got close enough to pass Max in to turn 1. He was gaining half a second at best with the tow and DRS.

Max had to close the inside line several times into turn 1. It was what gave Hamilton the shot at turn 5 as 2 3 and 4 are then compromised. Hamilton breezed passed everyone bar the bulls and in the end had more than enough for them too.

[Shrieker]

https://streamable.com/zo111f

Steering wheel stop working mid-corner, or what?

credit to u/kj-ka- for the stabilization

Wanna see Max's onboard before I pass judgement, but it looks like another case of "haha, steering wheel go brrrrr" from him

Absolutely. Apparently that lack of onboard is the only reason the stewards did nothing.

That's bizarre in this day and age...

[AMG.Tzan]

Stewards didn't even look at the onboard of Verstapen! Can't believe the FIA this weekend...

https://wtf1.com/post/fia-stewards-didn ... -incident/

[NathanOlder]

These speed trap numbers are utterly meaningless. Gasly was literally inches behind alonso when crossing speed trap line. You cant just take them at face value. Reality is hamilton was gaining 7-8 tenths up the hill and he started to gain that time troughout entire straight, not just the very end. Quite obviously he had a chunk more power compared to max.

Sector 2 speed trap is not really worth mentioning as its a very short straight and if you have a good exit it will show in higher speed. Perez fit soft tyres at the end was obviously very fast trough that section.

You should know better than to say Hamilton was gaining 7 or 8 tenths up the hill. His closest out of the final corner was 7 tenths I think on the exit. He never once got close enough to pass Max in to turn 1. He was gaining half a second at best with the tow and DRS.

Max had to close the inside line several times into turn 1. It was what gave Hamilton the shot at turn 5 as 2 3 and 4 are then compromised. Hamilton breezed passed everyone bar the bulls and in the end had more than enough for them too.

several times Max covered the inside in to turn 1 for no reason, Lewis wasn't close enough. This is what gave Lewis a better run through 2 and 3 to pass in to 4. Not sure why Max was taking the tighter line when he didn't need to, or was he worried about Lewis making a dive bomb lunge in to turn 1?

[ringo]

You should know better than to say Hamilton was gaining 7 or 8 tenths up the hill. His closest out of the final corner was 7 tenths I think on the exit. He never once got close enough to pass Max in to turn 1. He was gaining half a second at best with the tow and DRS.

Max had to close the inside line several times into turn 1. It was what gave Hamilton the shot at turn 5 as 2 3 and 4 are then compromised. Hamilton breezed passed everyone bar the bulls and in the end had more than enough for them too.

several times Max covered the inside in to turn 1 for no reason, Lewis wasn't close enough. This is what gave Lewis a better run through 2 and 3 to pass in to 4. Not sure why Max was taking the tighter line when he didn't need to, or was he worried about Lewis making a dive bomb lunge in to turn 1?

Fear..
But also he likes to take the inside so he can push drivers off the track. If he is on the outside he would lose the upper hand of having control of the corner. But he did it too early IMO.

What I found hilarious is Perez cry for help for Max to give him DRS. It could have worked. But Max scampered off even more. He was having none of it.

[wogx]

https://streamja.com/zPZAM
Why LH is moving the steering wheel back and forth? DAS was banned for 2021 Maybe it's a new system?

[Sieper]

You should know better than to say Hamilton was gaining 7 or 8 tenths up the hill. His closest out of the final corner was 7 tenths I think on the exit. He never once got close enough to pass Max in to turn 1. He was gaining half a second at best with the tow and DRS.

Max had to close the inside line several times into turn 1. It was what gave Hamilton the shot at turn 5 as 2 3 and 4 are then compromised. Hamilton breezed passed everyone bar the bulls and in the end had more than enough for them too.

several times Max covered the inside in to turn 1 for no reason, Lewis wasn't close enough. This is what gave Lewis a better run through 2 and 3 to pass in to 4. Not sure why Max was taking the tighter line when he didn't need to, or was he worried about Lewis making a dive bomb lunge in to turn 1?

I think so yes. The overspeed at that point was the biggest. Only time so far we seem to agree that perhaps Max shouldn’t have tried to cover that off. But I am sure you’ll use it against me, or him. It seems to be what this forum is about these days. Ah, even before I could actually post the vile has already drivelled in.