2022 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 18 - 20

[tpe]

I would LOVE to see Lando and the 2 Charles on the podium, with no particular order. Or Lando, on of the Charles and Pierre.
That would be a nice podium. No maxes, no lewises, no no no no...

[Red Rock Mutley]

The original rules said you need to have 2 wheels inside the white lines at all times.

But this started to be ignored for some reason.

Is it 2 or 1? I remember it being 1.

You might be correct - I cant find proof either way atm.

It's all 4 wheels off the track (beyond the white lines)

Article 33.3 of the F1 Sporting Regs:

"33.3 Drivers must make every reasonable effort to use the track at all times and may not leave
the track without a justifiable reason.

Drivers will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with it
and, for the avoidance of doubt, any white lines defining the track edges are considered
to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.

Should a car leave the track the driver may re-join, however, this may only be done when
it is safe to do so and without gaining any lasting advantage. At the absolute discretion
of the Race Director a driver may be given the opportunity to give back the whole of any
advantage he gained by leaving the track."

[djos]

Good find!

[AeroDynamic]

[AeroDynamic]

so, let's summarise:

Ferrari have no planned upgrades for this first race. They did 'show their hand' fully at the launch and test.
Red Bull showed their hand at Test 1 with their first upcoming upgrade at test 2. No upgrades for race 1.

Mercedes: didn't show their hand in test 1, showed it in test 2, and maybe have some of their hand left in race 1.

called it

What did you say previously

https://twitter.com/sportmphmark/status ... 42994?s=21

Something from a source I trust about the innovation inbound on the W13.

Now, am I Surprised Mercedes haven’t shown their hand like some teams? No.

But I think expectations should be tempered. If the downwash bodywork looks more mean and aggressive, that would be a great reveal. If the first iteration was some sort of red herring to throw the others off and chase something meaningless.. that would be epic.

Who has shown their hand?
Maybe Alfa, maybe Haas, Williams?

based on What Ferrari said, probably Ferrari.

By showing their hand, I'm basing that on the idea that other teams have shown more up-to-date and recent iterations of their cars along the development timeline. And if it turns out Mercedes have shown us a very old iteration dating much further back, then that for me is a team not showing their hand yet. Naturally all teams will be bringing a large amount of development in the coming months from development that is ongoing as we speak.

[AeroDynamic]

juxtaposition of the effort gone into this by the teams.

[Just_a_fan]

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... gezeichen/

Quite a few believe that Mercedes has veiled its true performance during the test drives. A team calculates that Mercedes has a second up its sleeve in terms of engine power alone. This is said to have been determined using the GPS data in comparison with Williams. The racing team from Grove drives with a Mercedes engine and is said to have turned it up to full speed in between. If that's true, George Russell would have driven at Verstappen level in the tests.

Which assumes that Max didn't also have engine power to spare on his quick runs. These people do like to draw interesting conclusions from small amounts of data and even less application of thought.

[chrisc90]

Got to learn from the best hasnt he

[Just_a_fan]

juxtaposition of the effort gone into this by the teams.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGNe_XEAE ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGShsXMBE ... name=large

Wow, if ever there was a case of not following the spirit of the rules, that document from Red Bull is a great example.

Interesting that Mercedes say the front wing gives 25% of the downforce. That suggests that the floor doesn't give the high % of total downforce that some commentators have been suggesting.

[AeroDynamic]

Got to learn from the best hasnt he

Max has 7 penalty points. a few more and he's having a race ban this season. (and that was during a season where the FIA gave him a 'let em crash' freedom pass)

greats don't need that. lol

I think Hamilton has learned from the sport and FIA that times have changed and he needs to change with the times to be on a level playing field with the wannabe Senna

[Just_a_fan]

juxtaposition of the effort gone into this by the teams.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGNe_XEAE ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGShsXMBE ... name=large

Where did you get those documents? Are they available in entirety for public consumption?

[Aesop]

juxtaposition of the effort gone into this by the teams.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGNe_XEAE ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGShsXMBE ... name=large

Wow, if ever there was a case of not following the spirit of the rules, that document from Red Bull is a great example.

Interesting that Mercedes say the front wing gives 25% of the downforce. That suggests that the floor doesn't give the high % of total downforce that some commentators have been suggesting.

Wonder why Rebull bothered to fill it in, basically they are saying they ran the changes in preseason testing.

[AeroDynamic]

juxtaposition of the effort gone into this by the teams.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGNe_XEAE ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOIGShsXMBE ... name=large

Where did you get those documents? Are they available in entirety for public consumption?

Twitter

[Just_a_fan]

Got to learn from the best hasnt he

If they're going to "let them race" and that includes "hard racing" then that's what he'll need to do. No point being fair if your opponents get away with doing otherwise.

It'll all end in tears, of course.

[Aesop]

Got to learn from the best hasnt he

Max has 7 penalty points. a few more and he's having a race ban this season. (and that was during a season where the FIA gave him a 'let em crash' freedom pass)

greats don't need that. lol

I think Hamilton has learned from the sport and FIA that times have changed and he needs to change with the times to be on a level playing field with the wannabe Senna

Or Hamilton knows he hasn't gt the best car anymore, like in 2011:

I drive aggressively because my car is not fast enough at times and I have to push and be aggressive.”