2022 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, July 01 - 03

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dialtone wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 17:33
Ryar wrote:
dialtone wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 16:10


Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.
Let's assume for a second that, it was a reason for engine failures, how many failures did Redbull suffer since then due to fuel pump issue? None. So how is this new regulatory change going to help RBR when they didn't have that problem for 8 races?
You should ask them, they were the ones asking for that rule change after Barcelona.
You claimed it and I am asking you. The record simply proves, even without this new change, Redbull was unaffected. May be with this change, it might help in terms of performance, to the Honda engines in hotter races. Not just Honda, but also Mercedes who also were in favor of this rule change. This change was supposed to have been introduced after consulting with all teams, which include Renault too and only one team that vetoed the decision, which was Ferrari.
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Wonder what stance the FIA will take this time round. 2 exemptions now isnt it?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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prendrefeu wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 18:02
organic wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 17:23
Binotto being constantly on the phone makes me particularly concerned
I'm more concerned that he's being allowed to keep his job.
Don't see any reasonable arguments for him not to keep his job.

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dialtone wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 16:10
Juzh wrote:
Juzh wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 10:15

which one was that?
Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.
This is not confirmed and any correlation is being stretched very far. Additionally, ferrari only rejected the change in spain and caused panic as a result.

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Link to another source for video I posted before, as Geo-locations were on the facebook post.
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Ryar wrote:
dialtone wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 17:33
Ryar wrote:Let's assume for a second that, it was a reason for engine failures, how many failures did Redbull suffer since then due to fuel pump issue? None. So how is this new regulatory change going to help RBR when they didn't have that problem for 8 races?
You should ask them, they were the ones asking for that rule change after Barcelona.
You claimed it and I am asking you. The record simply proves, even without this new change, Redbull was unaffected. May be with this change, it might help in terms of performance, to the Honda engines in hotter races. Not just Honda, but also Mercedes who also were in favor of this rule change. This change was supposed to have been introduced after consulting with all teams, which include Renault too and only one team that vetoed the decision, which was Ferrari.
the record shows red bull lobbied for this change. Full stop.

If they did, they need it somehow.

The rest is irrelevant.

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Juzh wrote:
dialtone wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 16:10
Juzh wrote: which one was that?
Bahrain of corse. Merc and RBR both had to do stuff around radiators thermal isolation, or fuel cooling, to make sure that fuel wouldn’t get too hot and cause issues in the fuel lines. Ferrari knew that was a challenge for them and rejected the change.

Now Ferrari probably liked to work on reliability and everyone got what they wanted.
This is not confirmed and any correlation is being stretched very far. Additionally, ferrari only rejected the change in spain and caused panic as a result.
What you wrote doesn't quite fit. Why would Ferrari cause a panic on something nobody cares and was irrelevant?

'only rejected this is spain'... Only? Were there other cases and they said yes until spain then started saying no? What does the sentence mean?

I'm honestly not sure what the controversy is here... Every team wants stuff from FIA, now everyone got it.

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Verstappen does not get a warm welcome from British F1 fans at Silverstone

While Verstappen indicated he had a high opinion of the British F1 fans, that feeling does not seem to be entirely mutual.
During a live Sky Sports broadcast, for which several activities were organised with the Formula One drivers, the announcement
of the reigning world champion and his team alone was enough to cause massive boos from the audience...........

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/114093/v ... stone.html
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Wouter wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 20:57
Verstappen does not get a warm welcome from British F1 fans at Silverstone

While Verstappen indicated he had a high opinion of the British F1 fans, that feeling does not seem to be entirely mutual.
During a live Sky Sports broadcast, for which several activities were organised with the Formula One drivers, the announcement
of the reigning world champion and his team alone was enough to cause massive boos from the audience...........

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/114093/v ... stone.html
Still a lot of bitter/toxic fans at the GP this weekend then. What exactly is there to boo and towards the team?

Icing on the cake would be a Max win, that would rub it in nicely.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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ΚOut of topic, I know...
But the rule change is a compromise between all teams. Some, wanted to be able to change the engine during park ferme. Some wanted to lower the fuel temp.
Both are happy.
Let's agree that it's unacceptable to change the rules in the middle of the championship and move on

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chrisc90 wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 21:00
Wouter wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 20:57
Verstappen does not get a warm welcome from British F1 fans at Silverstone

While Verstappen indicated he had a high opinion of the British F1 fans, that feeling does not seem to be entirely mutual.
During a live Sky Sports broadcast, for which several activities were organised with the Formula One drivers, the announcement
of the reigning world champion and his team alone was enough to cause massive boos from the audience...........

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/114093/v ... stone.html
Still a lot of bitter/toxic fans at the GP this weekend then. What exactly is there to boo and towards the team?

Icing on the cake would be a Max win, that would rub it in nicely.
No surprise with such behavior at Silverstone, There was a time when Senna used to go true the same treatment out there.

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tpe wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 21:38
ΚOut of topic, I know...
But the rule change is a compromise between all teams. Some, wanted to be able to change the engine during park ferme. Some wanted to lower the fuel temp.
Both are happy.
Let's agree that it's unacceptable to change the rules in the middle of the championship and move on
what i find interesting is the fuel although benefits some teams more the rule change can be explained as its a different fuel for these regulations so a change is understandable, but the engine change in parc ferme is somewhat strange for for power units that basically have been around since 2014 other teams are benefiting much more that needed this

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Does anyone know the latest with the jewellery ruling from the FIA?? I notice the nose stud is still in on Lewis. The original exemption ran out yesterday and I dont think ive seen anything to say there has been further exemptions.
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aran.vtec wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 21:46
tpe wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 21:38
ΚOut of topic, I know...
But the rule change is a compromise between all teams. Some, wanted to be able to change the engine during park ferme. Some wanted to lower the fuel temp.
Both are happy.
Let's agree that it's unacceptable to change the rules in the middle of the championship and move on
what i find interesting is the fuel although benefits some teams more the rule change can be explained as its a different fuel for these regulations so a change is understandable, but the engine change in parc ferme is somewhat strange for for power units that basically have been around since 2014 other teams are benefiting much more that needed this
Everyone can say the same for the teams they don't support. A compromise is a compromise.

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Wouter wrote:
30 Jun 2022, 20:57
Verstappen does not get a warm welcome from British F1 fans at Silverstone

While Verstappen indicated he had a high opinion of the British F1 fans, that feeling does not seem to be entirely mutual.
During a live Sky Sports broadcast, for which several activities were organised with the Formula One drivers, the announcement
of the reigning world champion and his team alone was enough to cause massive boos from the audience...........

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/114093/v ... stone.html
Asked whether he wanted to send a message to fans at Zandvoort to show more respect for his title rival this weekend, Verstappen said the booing was inevitable.

"I look at it like this, when you go to a football match, you come into the home ground, the opposition will be booed at some point and it's not up to the local club to go on to the speakers and say 'guys, you cannot boo,' as it will naturally happen," Verstappen said.
https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/32 ... grand-prix